PVS & Windows Media Server

[Nick Evgeniev]

Hi,

May be it's a dumb question, but ... Is it possible to use PVS with Windows Media Server? I mean to use WMS as a proxy to view PVS live stream?

Yes/No/Other software?

[RobertH]

umm,

I dont actually know but am interested in why?

in the past there have been problems with machines that have media server or whatever they are calling it now installed as the two programs try and use the same streaming port by default

[Julia]

A person named Wezul on here was using files from Snapstream with Windows Media Server to get around the bug with streaming to pocket pc's a while back. So, someone had it working.

Julia

[Nick Evgeniev]

Originally posted by RobertH
umm,

I dont actually know but am interested in why?

in the past there have been problems with machines that have media server or whatever they are calling it now installed as the two programs try and use the same streaming port by default

Hi, I'd like to use Media Server installed localy to access remote PVS via it. So, I can preserve inet bandwith requirements for PVS machine in case of multiple connections.

Or may be you now other solution to save bandwith for Remote PVS machine?? Actually I'm not a MS fan

[Nick Evgeniev]

Hi,

Just to avoid missunderstanding, Here is wat I want to get working:
System A (running PVS):
Installed somewhere & connected to internet.

System B (running Windows Media Server:
Installed locally & connects to system A on demand.

Systems C1, C2, C3, ... Cn:
Installed locally and connects to System B to view stream from System A.

Is it possible to do it with snapstream PVS???

BTW does PVS support WM9? (I think it does.)

[RobertH]

you can have the media server connect on demand but only to pull content off of a file share or from the archive streaming server (you would have to look at the links on the web admin page to see what the stream links point to) but as far as live tv goes that wouldnt work very well because you have to start up a specific webpage on the webadmin to trigger live tv to start, but once triggered you can stream it out to any number of clients you want

[Nick Evgeniev]

Hi,

Originally posted by RobertH
but as far as live tv goes that wouldnt work very well because you have to start up a specific webpage on the webadmin to trigger live tv to start, but once triggered you can stream it out to any number of clients you want

Ok. But if I stream to N number of clients it will consume N*(single client bandwith requiremnt) bandwith. This is the thing I'have to avoid. Basically all I need is a unicast-to-multicast retranslator. In my previous letter I assume that link between system A and B is SLOW (internet), while link B<->C has no bandwith limit.

May be Media Server not a solution.... Well I need an advice

And thank you for fast replies.

[Julia]

Let me get this straight, you basically want to use Windows Media Server because the C machines are actually across the internet from A but local to B (It's a good thing I know my alphabet).

I'm trying to understand why the multiple client bandwidth issue is going to be so important on a local lan... Unless you've got a LOT of users or an already busy lan this shouldn't be a concern... And if you have a lot of wireless users, a multicast solution may not be a good idea (flooding your wireless lan).

Julia

[Dj Ken]

Yes you should be able to use Microsoft Streaming server with SS. When you configure MS Streaming server you tell the server where the encoder is (IP num and port) so if the "encoder" is Microsoft WindowsMedia encoder or SnapStream don't matter (I think) Make a test and find out!

[Nick Evgeniev]

Originally posted by Julia
Let me get this straight, you basically want to use Windows Media Server because the C machines are actually across the internet from A but local to B (It's a good thing I know my alphabet).

Yes. Exactly! PVS system (A) is across the internet from its clients (C*) and will be accessed only by system (B) to preserve stream quality.

I'm trying to understand why the multiple client bandwidth issue is going to be so important on a local lan... Unless you've got a LOT of users or an already busy lan this shouldn't be a concern... And if you have a lot of wireless users, a multicast solution may not be a good idea (flooding your wireless lan).

Julia

I don't care about LAN . I care about bavdwith requirements for internet link!

[Julia]

You might want to look into the same sort of thing someone else is, that is to use A to record, B to download the files via ftp or some such, then use B to stream out to the C clients... And from a price point of view it might be best to use Snapstream on both A and B, you wouldn't be recording on B but using the streaming part of Snapstream on B.

Julia

[Nick Evgeniev]

Originally posted by Julia
You might want to look into the same sort of thing someone else is, that is to use A to record, B to download the files via ftp or some such, then use B to stream out to the C clients... And from a price point of view it might be best to use Snapstream on both A and B, you wouldn't be recording on B but using the streaming part of Snapstream on B.

Julia

Not exactly. I need to do it with live translation. In case of snapstream it would be nice if PVS will support chain mode to retranslate content from one node to another.

BTW is it possible with PVS to perform live translation & recording at the same time?

[Julia]

Live translation? I'm not sure what you mean...

Julia

[RobertH]

I dont think the encoder in snapstream supports any of the advacned features of windows media 9 encoder for streaming/etc. You should be able to pick the streams up off of the snapstream box with the broadcast server and then have it do chaining/recompression on the fly if it is a beefy enough machine. the problem is that by default snapstream records in windows media 7video and to use those features you would have to toggle snapstreams profile to use wm9video or one of the other wm9 profiles and those chew up a signifigant amount of cpu when used for on the fly recording.