Intergration?

[queonda]

Intergrate or NOT to Intergrate. Is that the question?

[merrypig]

Integration, that's what we need. If you wanna beat the rest. If you wanna be the best..wooooah. Integration, that's what we need. If you wanna be a Recoooorddd breakkkerrr!


Sorry. I've gotten it out of the system now.

[cfaslave]

Originally Posted by queonda

Intergrate or NOT to Intergrate. Is that the question?

Hey, wait why am I the only one to vote thus far??? Is it because intergrate means something different then integrate? Or is it because I'm so passionate about how important it is for Snapstream to integrate full HTPC features into the Beyond TV fold? Man, if it takes singing an awesome song like merrypig did, then I'll do it. Just make Beyond TV BEYOND please!

Okay, it's now out of my system also --for today anyway...

By the way, where is that dork that voted for all the several-years-old polls. Surely he'll vote with me here

[cncb]

Originally Posted by cfaslave

Hey, wait why am I the only one to vote thus far??? Is it because intergrate means something different then integrate?

Maybe that's the problem? Snapstream promised us "intergration" and since no one knows what that means they can say they have delivered .

I voted yes, of course, but have given up hope for SS. As soon as JRMC delivers docs for their Theater View sdk, I plan to "port" some of my plugins there (they already have music and photos taken care of). Then, I might try to write something to better "integrate" BTV into JRMC.

[cfaslave]

Originally Posted by cncb

Maybe that's the problem? Snapstream promised us "intergration" and since no one knows what that means they can say they have delivered .

I voted yes, of course, but have given up hope for SS. As soon as JRMC delivers docs for their Theater View sdk, I plan to "port" some of my plugins there (they already have music and photos taken care of). Then, I might try to write something to better "integrate" BTV into JRMC.

Craig,
You win the "most likely to switch HTPC applications in the next day" award

My wife tells me that under no circumstances am I allowed to change anything that major with HER tv setup. I had considered the Vista thing for a while until last week when I went over to the inlaws to help them with their new Vista laptop. Talk about a pain in the royal a$$. Anyway, you know me, always waiting and always hoping........ I would threaten to move to something if I felt it would be better than what I have now, but I have yet to be convinced that "better" option is out there. SS knows what they need to do, the question is what direction will they go? I see the enterprise thing being a big focus for them right now - I just hope they still have the eye on the BTV "ball".

[queonda]

Originally Posted by cfaslave

Is it because intergrate means something different then integrate?

Spelling was NEVER my strong asset! But ya know what it means. The reason I havn't voted cuz, I got it out of my system for today making the poll. Maybe I'll vote tomorrow.

[cfaslave]

Originally Posted by queonda

Spelling was NEVER my strong asset! But ya know what it means. T

Yeah I have occasional issues with spelling too - I didn't mean it as a slam in any way, just trying to be funny with an obvious lack of sleep this afternoon.

Integration - Integration we want Integration but I think SS knows that.... Never hurts to remind them though does it.

[queonda]

I didn't take it as a slam anyway. LOL If SS decide to get into the poll they will just answer the 3rd option.

[cfaslave]

Originally Posted by queonda

I didn't take it as a slam anyway. LOL If SS decide to get into the poll they will just answer the 3rd option.

I'll bet you a beer there are at least a few Snapstream'rs reading this and pulling for some sort of integration right as we type. Seriously, it is a no-brainer and I totally respect the SS crew - thats why I think it will happen one way or another.

[cncb]

Originally Posted by cfaslave

You win the "most likely to switch HTPC applications in the next day" award.

Sad but true...

[ZetaVu]

Ok guys, it is still June, so it is still the FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR, and of course SS will not even consider such a request until the SECOND HALF OF 2007, which for us, their eager and myriadically loyal enthusiasts, might mean, oh, July, by the strictest of definitions, I'm sure SS took that to mean, say, December.

Either way, Yes, Integration is the next logical step, it is not as exciting as cablecard or Firewire, but neither of those is realistic at this point. It is not as interesting as porting to Linux or Mac, but then again, as frighteningly complex as integration may be, I'm sure it pales in comparison to those otherwise essential evolutionary steps. But sadly, there are also a myriad (although sincerely reducing) number of bugs that still need to be sorted out in the current state of affairs.

Good news is it seems one of the more thoroughly documented issues, lost recordings for Redlion4, seems to be related to a conflict between Norton AV and BTV (anyone remember Zonealarm?) and hopefully other bugs are sorted this easily. So, really, apart from minor tweaks like CC or PIP or a lot of what's been started with plugins and the community webadmin, I really see nothing left that really trumps integration other than the fact that it benefits us more than SS (meaning SS has their sights set in directions other than their customer base, the home enthusiast.) I hope this is not the fact, and that SS will at the least, and I mean the very, very absolutely minimalistic least, modify the front end of btv so that we may port (or use outright) BM plugins in BTV. This is clearly the least effort they could put out, thus letting those passionate in the community to do the brunt of the work, to allow for an integrated product.

This also opens the door for them to either open source the existing modules of BM for the community to develop, for them, as a gift at no charge, or to develop said modules themselves into sellable modules, rather addins (such as , DVD burned plugin) to market accordingly.

Either way, I am seeing a definite lack of excuses on the horizon, and while June is still the infancy of the integration swell, it is definitely a good time to start getting the flavor of what should, and by should I really mean, SHOULD, be the next development of BTV.

[cncb]

Originally Posted by ZetaVu

Either way, Yes, Integration is the next logical step, it is not as exciting as cablecard or Firewire, but neither of those is realistic at this point. It is not as interesting as porting to Linux or Mac, but then again, as frighteningly complex as integration may be, I'm sure it pales in comparison to those otherwise essential evolutionary steps.

Well, true to my reputation I am checking out SageTV again. Have you looked at them lately? They support Linux and now apparently there is a Mac version. There also is supposed to be a high-def extender sometime this year. It might be worth a look...

[queonda]

My O my. Snapstream better step it up.

[cfaslave]

Why don't the names always show up next to the vote when some do? I'm seeing three who chose no integration, but only one name???

[queonda]

You can still vote just being a visitor. I didn't see an option to disable that. O well. I still haven't officially voted for my own poll. hahahaha