Feature?? Pain?? Inconveinence??

[bikr]

I ran into something I never realized today. If a show is recording , you can't goto the recorded menu and watch it from the beginning if it's still recording , that kinda sucks.

If your tray icon is running and recordning something , how do you open up fullscreen mode and watch the show that it is recording without it stopping recording it.. ?? --Josh

[RobertH]

um, yes you can, i do it all the time, i did it last night during enterprise because dinner didnt finish microwaving before the recording started, i opened the recording menu and then selected it and selected play

(now by all this i am talking about the gui interface, and the recording format is mpeg)

[bikr]

hrm... , hm hm hm.. My fiance was recording survivor , and she opened the recorded menu and selected survivor and it let her watch it , but it stopped the recording and she doesn't have the ending to the show "so she says..

[Eric3a]

Fiancee malfunction: Upgrade or replace.

Actually if your default recording setting is .wmv then you can't watch and record the same file at the same time. (Timeshifting not possible with wmv)

Swicth over to mpeg recordings and check your fiancee..
Eric

[bikr]

it's definately mpg , and i see what she's saying the recording went from like ooooooooooohhhhhhhh waiiiiiitittttttt i think i got it , it went from like hmm.. one sec ..... hmm..

it recorded exactly 45 minutes

7:59 - 8:44 in the guide there's an N with a line through it on that show , what does that mean???

[Rita]

I record in mpeg and watched Survivor from the recordings menu with probably a minute or so delay... I've never run into a problem not being able to watch anything whether it's old recordings or in process from the recordings screen.... It should have worked...

[bikr]

i think it means new only , hmm.. i just don't know , if you're watching it while it's recording behind a few , and you hit "stop" on the remote is that a possibility? maybe she hit a button on it etc??

[Brett]

Originally posted by bikr
it recorded exactly 45 minutes

7:59 - 8:44 in the guide there's an N with a line through it on that show , what does that mean???

Means you have schedule to record all new episodes of this show, but for some reason it did want to record it. For reference if you see a marked out 'A' that means you set to record all episodes. And if either is not marked out that means it will/is recording that episode.

Simplist way to figure this out though:
Go here:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\SnapStream\Beyond TV\log

Locate the log from the day Survivor aired, and post atleast one hour prior and one hour prior to when it was suppose to record, perhaps that will hint at what happen.

-Brett

[bikr]

19:59 ---starts recording
20:45 ---stopped recording but doesn't look like it stopped in log..







2/12/2004 19:01:05] Halting the recording engine.
[2/12/2004 19:01:05] Recording engine halted. (0)
[2/12/2004 19:01:06] Tagging of g:\tv shows\Seinfeld-(The Movie)-2004-02-12-0.mpg completed.
[2/12/2004 19:25:16] Using internal MPEG-2 video decoder for playback.
[2/12/2004 19:25:16] PlaybackPlayer: VMR9 connected successfully.
[2/12/2004 19:27:26] The Full Screen Interface is closing itself in response to a Control-Shift-F1 key press combination.
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Starting a recording, Always Timeshifting is currently deactivated.
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Requested dimensions: 640 x 480
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] MPEG-2 Video Recording bitrate: 7000000
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] MPEG-2 using 2 B-Frames and 4 P-Frames per group
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] MPEG-2 Noise Filter disabled
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] MPEG-2 Motion Precision set to 1%
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] MPEG-2 Audio Bitrate is set to 224000
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] MPEG-2 Audio Sampling Frequency is set to 48000
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Default FileFormat is currently: MPEG-2
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Video capture device: Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Creating card builder for 'Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture'
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Using "Video Tuner" crossbar input.
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Setting country code: 1
[2/12/2004 19:59:00] Set TV format to NTSC_M.
[2/12/2004 19:59:01] Using "Video Tuner" crossbar input.
[2/12/2004 19:59:01] Using "Video Tuner" crossbar input.
[2/12/2004 19:59:02] Using the store: Common
[2/12/2004 19:59:02] Recording to MPEG-2 format
[2/12/2004 19:59:02] TimeShift Sink successfully started recording
[2/12/2004 19:59:02] Using "Video Tuner" crossbar input.
[2/12/2004 19:59:02] Started the recording 'Survivor: All-Stars' successfully.
[2/12/2004 19:59:10] Show Monitor: found new show Survivor All-Stars-(Shark Attack)-2004-02-12-0.mpg in g:\tv shows.
[2/12/2004 20:45:03] TSSourcePlayer: Using MPEG demultiplexer
[2/12/2004 20:45:03] Using internal MPEG-2 video decoder for timeshifted TV.
[2/12/2004 20:45:03] TSSourcePlayer: Connected to the VMR9.
[2/12/2004 21:01:01] Dispatcher stopped the recording: the recording has completed.
[2/12/2004 21:01:01] Stopped the MPEG-2 recording 'Survivor: All-Stars' successfully.
[2/12/2004 21:01:01] TimeShift Sink successfully stopped recording
[2/12/2004 21:01:01] Using "Video Tuner" crossbar input.
[2/12/2004 21:01:01] Postprocessing of file: g:\tv shows\Survivor All-Stars-(Shark Attack)-2004-02-12-0.mpg successfully submitted to the BatchProcessor
[2/12/2004 21:01:02] Halting the recording engine.
[2/12/2004 21:01:02] Tagging of g:\tv shows\Survivor All-Stars-(Shark Attack)-2004-02-12-0.mpg completed.
[2/12/2004 21:01:02] Recording engine halted. (0)

[Brett]

According to the log...
[2/12/2004 19:59:10] Show Monitor: found new show Survivor All-Stars-(Shark Attack)-2004-02-12-0.mpg in g:\tv shows.
[2/12/2004 20:45:03] TSSourcePlayer: Using MPEG demultiplexer
[2/12/2004 20:45:03] Using internal MPEG-2 video decoder for timeshifted TV.
[2/12/2004 20:45:03] TSSourcePlayer: Connected to the VMR9.
[2/12/2004 21:01:01] Dispatcher stopped the recording: the recording has completed.
[2/12/2004 21:01:01] Stopped the MPEG-2 recording 'Survivor: All-Stars' successfully.

I suspect that at 08:44 your wife went over to use the box, because this is when the recording appear to have stopped and because at 08:45 it is clear that someone started playback of something, I suspect Survivor. The log should have had between 20:44 and 20:45 a message to the effect of Halting the recording engine, this would imply she hit stop. Since I do not see this message, I can for once conclude it was *possibly* not the wifes fault. Another thing that catches my eye is the recording started at 59 on the hour, not at 00. This to me says its one of those network tricks that they have been playing lately.

For now on you should be able to start shows from within the library without it stopping the recording, please post if you experience this problem again and the steps to reproduce it.

Also is this picture poor quality because of the way you saved it or you not running at 16bit or higher depth?

BTW I noticed you have a PVR250 and are using the standard decoder you will likely find a performance boost through this trick.

Best of luck,
-Brett

[bikr]

not a bad eye there but you didn't look close enough , hehe , that picture was taken via screen capture , and I was vnc'd into my htpc from work .. the image always looks krappy because they can't be pumping 10,000,000 colors through a network hehe.. but yah it looks alot better on the real screen , i'll check out the link thanks!!!

p.s. the timing i think it because of my 1 minute padding

[Cayars]

OK bikr,

How did you get VNC to work with BTV? Many of us can't get it to work. Do you mind sharing with us which version of VNC you use and what your setting are?

Thanks,
Carlo

[RobertH]

I use real vnc with these settings and it works fine (updates slow as hell and tends to peg the processor out on the btv box while connected but it works (client set to autoselect bitrate and compression format), the screen normally starts off all white then refreshes completely after about 2-3 seconds:

[Brett]

Originally posted by Cayars
Many of us can't get it to work.

I thought it was just problems with Microsofts Remote Desktiop...

-Brett

[Soundman]

Hi, Cayers.

I also use VNC with BTV, and it works like a charm on a local LAN. The main thing is to use the RealVNC 4.0 beta, rather than other distros. The performance boost added in RealVNC 4.0 beta is tremendous compared to TightVNC, TridiaVNC, and Plain old VNC, which I used in the past. Subjectively, it seems to be 5-10 TIMES faster!

Also, VNC performance more than quadruples if the host screen is set to 16-bit color depth, rather than 32-bit. I am talking about the video card config, not any config in VNC itself. Unfortunately, this causes noticeable color quantization errors during video playback on my TV screen. For this reason, I frequently switch to 16-bit when using VNC, then swtich back to 32-bit to watch stuff.

Soundman