How the hell does Glenn Beck

[ZetaVu]

make it to the top five of snapstream buzz? Is this a joke? Oh I fear for us as a species (or is this just the Daily show cluttering up our buzz?)

[Jakesty]

I have no clue. The guy is an incendiary moron with sheep as followers looking for a saviour. (sheep and old people)

[bsmith859]

Well I am not a sheep I am not an old person, I also am not someone that puts labels on people. Maybe you should watch Glenn with an open mind for a week and make an opinion after that. Maybe you should watch his Restoring Honor from 8/28 and see if your opinion doesn't change. Why is it a big deal to you if Glenn is in the top 5, there are plenty of shows that I don't like but I don't complain about it I just don't watch them.

[ZetaVu]

I really don't mean to insult you because of my disdain of everything glenn beck stands for and his outright abuse of the weak minded people that flock to his events, I was merely expressing shock that a show so vile and contemptible by any intellectual standards (again, not criticizing your beliefs but the level of blatant disregard for logic and credibility that becks show indulges in) would be in the viewing habits of people who I believe have had to demonstrate a pretty high level of competence and critical thinking to get a software PVR operating, let alone the personality traits of your typical DYIer. The beck show contrasts dramatically against the typical genre that this audience will engage in, usually geek-fare, cutting edge or intellectual, that and of course the south park and spongebob extremes because the rest of the family watches as well. Beck doesn't fit into that, and yes, while I personally feel he should be cast out of civilization for being the Uberdouche, I am not reflecting on his show for its content or his audience for their intelligence or integrity, I am merely stating that for the BTV community, I am shocked that such a show would be so highly positioned in buzz, as this goes in contrast of all past trends and genres.

Now, there are a few possible explanations, one being a fault in the algorithm (wouldn't be the first time), another that BTV users have really dwindled down or most have decided to turn off the anonymous sharing features, that a handful of users are now fueling buzz (also very little else is being recorded in this gap). I also brought up the Daily Show, who with Colbert and other enterprise customers probably record the beck show daily specifically for humorous fodder for their own shows (possibly a lot of news outlets as well, everyone loves a circus), of course I'm not sure if enterprise customers are involved in feeding the buzz numbers.

And of course this could all just be a joke from one of the devs, maybe they got bored and bet someone that no one was using buzz anymore since BTV development has died, so they decided to put that up for a laugh. Or, I suppose it is entirely possible, that many people are watching beck, meaning I seriously need to consider what is left in this community because based on my observations from the show, there is no way one can watch that show and not lose precious drops of their sanity in doing so.

But again, my intention was not in any way to insult the show or its viewers, but merely pointing out a scientific discrepancy in logic, and I specifically think this is not the place to do any glenn beck bashing, as there are countless places on the interwebs where that is already being done.

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Originally Posted by ZetaVu

I really don't mean to insult you because of my disdain of everything glenn beck stands for and his outright abuse of the weak minded people that flock to his events, I was merely expressing shock that a show so vile and contemptible by any intellectual standards (again, not criticizing your beliefs but the level of blatant disregard for logic and credibility that becks show indulges in) would be in the viewing habits of people who........

But again, my intention was not in any way to insult the show or its viewers, but merely pointing out a scientific discrepancy in logic, and I specifically think this is not the place to do any glenn beck bashing, as there are countless places on the interwebs where that is already being done.[/b]

Really, it's not you intent to insult people? Other then calling them weak minded and stupid. Also if you going to post somethign that long you should try a period every now and then.

I am not going to get into a political discussion here, Your seem very open minded, but I still think the discussion would be less than fruitful.

FYI, I don't listen to Glen Beck on any regular basis. I do catch him sometimes on Sirius radio, as I listen to Fox News in my car from time to time. I am sure your opinion of most conservatives is similar, however.

[bsmith859]

First of all I should have made myself more clear, I was commenting on Jakesty post , I didn’t have a problem with your original post but in your reply you kept saying that your intention was not to insult anyone but you do it several times in your reply.

Your comment “I really don't mean to insult you because of my disdain of everything Glenn beck stands for and his outright abuse of the weak minded people that flock to his events”, should be an insult to me because your calling me weak minded but is not. I for one think everyone should be better than that. Just because I don’t agree with someone’s point of view like John Stewart, Keith Olbermann, Maddow or Matthews I don’t feel they should be “cast out of civilization for being the Uberdouche” I just choose not to watch them, there is no reason for me to cut him down. I have and I do watch them to get both sides.

You also say this is not the place to do any Glenn Beck Bashing, which I AGREE with you but you do it anyway. Have you even watched more than a couple of Glenn Becks shows lately or are taking what the Huffington Post, Media Matters or John Stewart is saying about him and running with it.

We all have different views and ideas we need to agree on the ones we can and agree to disagree on the ones we do not.
Bill Smith

[ZetaVu]

So much for sarcasm.


Edit: I suppose I better explain that for those glenn beck fans out there (see, that's an example of sarcasm)
What I was doing with that last post was doing my best impersonation of glenn beck. I was crude and dismissive, insulting while denying my open hostility, throwing continuous cheep blows in and disregarding any reasonable arguments contrary to my position. Basically being a name-calling Uberdouche and denying it all along, wanton rambling runons, and pretending to be of higher moral value than the behavior I'm engaging in. I thought it was funny, but some of you didn't because for once it was aimed at YOU. Just like glenn beck does during his shows, but then he's aiming his open animosity at people who disagree with him (and probably your values), or whatever he's paid to agree with. See what I did there, it has nothing to do with position, conservatism (I consider myself a libertarian, and tea partier is an insult to me), beliefs or anything else, its just a total lack of class and integrity, and that's what it feels like to be on the receiving end of the glen beck treatment.

[bsmith859]

I don't understand why you feel the need to insult people, does it make you feel good.

If Glenn is so bad why don't you back it up with some Facts and where those Facts came from.

[ZetaVu]

You need to look at where you are, this is tv talk, where we discuss what's on tv, how good or incredibly bad it is, and often what we feel needs to be purged from the airwaves. Most people never bat an eye if you say things like "reality tv is contributing to the dumbification of America" if they are a fan, yet when the dirty subject of politics comes into play, then any and all comments now must enter tight scrutiny for fear of insulting a viewer. On the one had I can rip apart the lack of intellect involved in watching knight Rider and get a few chuckles, if I stray so far into ripping something like Bill O'Reilly (who I used to think was a pinhead, but compared to Beck he actually seems levelheaded and eloquent - see what I did there, he calls people pinheads all the time so I called him one) then I get the "does insulting people make you feel good" line.

Well no, insulting people does not make me feel good, but getting a good fiery discussion going does. In this one of course there can be no winners since nothing I say can convince you you are wrong and nothing you say will make any sense (see what I did there, I started making it seem like we were at an irreconcilable stalemate but then went a different direction and threw another insult in there).

So, all kidding aside, I am not insulting you for humor, my glenn-beck-personality is being insultive for illustration. I am insulting glenn beck for humor because, as I've stated, he is such a gigantic douche. I would be more than happy to start listing a collection of his most doucheworthy quotes or clips from youtube, which fans can say are taken out of context, but again, I throw the question right back at you. Can you name or link anything glenn beck has ever said or done that was in any way not douchery? Perhaps getting people to invest in gold coins for greater than their cash in value because he gets kickbacks from the companies? How about having a non-political rally on MLK's speech anniversary and location to rant against a black president and how he's destroying amerika because god told him to? How about asking Kieth Ellison, a muslim congressman, to prove he's not working with our enemies?

But, now I'm letting myself get roped into the beckbashing (which I tire easy of since its not really a challenge, I can link dozens of websites that do nothing but link clips from his interviews, quotes, any of the nasty soundbites he markets himself with), so I will stop here.

I leave you with this, if you can show me one noble act or fact about beck, then I'll actually force myself to sit through a week of his shows. (well, I'll record them and skip through the crying parts and commercials). If not, then the terrorists have already won.

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Originally Posted by ZetaVu

Most people never bat an eye if you say things like "reality tv is contributing to the dumbification of America"

True because most people agree or don't want people to know they watch reality shows. Polite people don't say things like that. It's one thing to say I don't care for those type shows and leave at that. However, these days people want to say things like you're stupid for watching those. I think it's the internet, most people wouldn't say somethign like that to someones face because it's not nice. When given the chance to do it basically anonymously it's a different story. Forums seem to bring that out in people.

As for your Glen Beck items.

Getting paid to advertise a product is a bad thing? There are many people who believe buying gold is a good idea in this economy.

The MLK thing was blown way out of proportion, I would venture to guess that less than .05% of the people in the US even knew the date of the MLK I have a dream speech. It would not have been a big deal if not made one by people like the Rev Al Sharpton. According to Beck it was just the first date available and he didn't know the significance of the date either. My guess is you don't believe that.

The destroying America because God told him to thing, well I have no idea what that's about. I tried to find a quote but couldn't. It's not a nice thing to say, but my guess is you would be hard pressed to link me to the video or transcript that you're talking about. If you did my guess is I might come away with a totally different perspective of what was said. He does tend to invoke the God angel quite a bit, but I never heard him say that.

Now I am not a big fan of Glen Beck, the only talk show i listen to and it's a very limited amount is Neal Boortz out of Atlanta. Those silly voices Beck makes usually gets me to change stations pretty quick when he comes on. My guess is I have listened to him much more than you have, and from the times I have listened I have never heard him say anything all that subversive. He is just another Christian conservative talking head that liberals hate.

You were being Sarcastic, really?

[Nick Burns]

Originally Posted by Terminal

It would not have been a big deal if not made one by people like the Rev Al Sharpton. According to Beck it was just the first date available and he didn't know the significance of the date either.

There's now enough history that any date would have some significance to some fanatic one way or the other.

[ZetaVu]

I was being sincere, using sarcasm as my tool. (or I was being a tool, using sincerity as my sarcasm, figure that one out.)

[Bigbird999]

ENCORE! ENCORE! cried the crowd! I am seriously, ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

BB

[Jakesty]

Originally Posted by bsmith859

Well I am not a sheep I am not an old person, I also am not someone that puts labels on people. Maybe you should watch Glenn with an open mind for a week and make an opinion after that. Maybe you should watch his Restoring Honor from 8/28 and see if your opinion doesn't change. Why is it a big deal to you if Glenn is in the top 5, there are plenty of shows that I don't like but I don't complain about it I just don't watch them.

If you haven't learned yet about how much of a joke fox news is, they provide half the story so that you get all upset about the situation without knowing more of the whole story. They do this to get your viewership, and obviously it has worked. Glenn Beck works that angle pretty well, so much so that his own network cut him short because of the tirade that was coming out of his mouth just a month ago. Glenn was different earlier on in his career and now uses this type of demonstration to get viewers. I question what his true beliefs are.

Now, maybe he had a decent show you referred to, I guess it might be on Youtube, but I didn't see it on FNB. Who's to say one show isn't decent, and I'd be willing to watch it. But when these guys go off and start attacking the president or democrats because they're all bad, just remember we weren't in this position with the morally inept Clinton (oooh another label, but true) and it would be totally stupid to now say "oh lets vote for a republican in November because the democrats don't know what they're doing". We're in this position now because of the republican nightmare, it can't be fixed overnight when the problem is as big as it is.

I'd rather hear constructive criticism than the whining and finger pointing.
He doesn't have much nice to say about anything, doesn't bring the viewers.

Baaaaaah, Baaaaaah

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Originally Posted by Jakesty

If you haven't learned yet about how much of a joke fox news is, they provide half the story so that you get all upset about the situation without knowing more of the whole story. They do this to get your viewership, and obviously it has worked. Glenn Beck works that angle pretty well, so much so that his own network cut him short because of the tirade that was coming out of his mouth just a month ago. Glenn was different earlier on in his career and now uses this type of demonstration to get viewers. I question what his true beliefs are.

Now, maybe he had a decent show you referred to, I guess it might be on Youtube, but I didn't see it on FNB. Who's to say one show isn't decent, and I'd be willing to watch it. But when these guys go off and start attacking the president or democrats because they're all bad, just remember we weren't in this position with the morally inept Clinton (oooh another label, but true) and it would be totally stupid to now say "oh lets vote for a republican in November because the democrats don't know what they're doing". We're in this position now because of the republican nightmare, it can't be fixed overnight when the problem is as big as it is.

I'd rather hear constructive criticism than the whining and finger pointing.
He doesn't have much nice to say about anything, doesn't bring the viewers.

Baaaaaah, Baaaaaah

And you think only Fox news and the Republicans do this, talk about Baaaah Baaaah.