Hauppauge HD-PVR support

[lschroeder]

Originally Posted by bishop0369

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My best answer for Ischroeder is; the USB-UIRT works for me to control my HD-PVRs; I never got any joy out of the blasters that come with the cards or the HD-PVRs; I just couldn't get them to work. I'm sure they could work but I took the easy road. I'm sure someone has the answer for how to get them to work...

I updated my drivers for my HD-PVR to the 1.7.1.30059; still limping along with one HD-PVR until I get my 5A bricks but I have been having sucess with it recording without locking up.

I decided to try to get HD PVR blaster to work. Not sure I have everything working right yet, but at least the blaster works.

Found my HD PVR C1 original disk and WinTV disk that came with my Hauppauge 850 usb tuner (BTV thinks it is a 950). Quit BTVE (using for HDHR primes) and BTV. Ran the hcwclear.exe program. It wiped out my drivers for HD PVR, Hauppauge 850, Hauppauge 1800 pci, and my PCTV 880e (acquired by Hauppauge). Rebooted and MS updates installed some of the drivers.

Downloaded the current WinTV Hauppauge CD 2.5 for my 1800. Installed the drivers from this CD. Installed the software from the 2.5 CD (actually used the download for both drivers and software) with it asking me to insert my original WinTV CD in the optical drive for software part of the update.

Installed next from my original HD PVR C1 disk its drivers. On the software options I told to modify and unchecked all options as on my windows 7 machine I had loaded upgraded versions earlier. Manually updated the HD PVR driver from device manager to hdpvr_1.0.5.301 on a flashdrive. Ran BlastCfg, had my STB listed, and it changed the channels!!! Note: HD PVR must be done after all other Hauppauge tuners are installed for the blaster to work right.

Noticed the PCTV tuner had a warning. Google and found drivers that I upgraded from device manager. Not sure when I did this. May of lucked out cause Hauppauge acquired this and I had to go to a PCTV site to get its drivers. Blaster may have not known about this tuner. It should be noted that the Hauppauge clear program did remove the PCTV drivers.

Tried BTV link and HD PVR and QAM played live. Started to setup recordings for various tuners, noticed blocked sign on a recording. Shut down BTVE and BTV. Ran the wizard and reset 1800 QAM using existing scan, 850 OTA, and 880e OTA. New quide is downloading, so I stopped. Will let you know what happens after the guide completes downloading. Did not use wizard on HD PVR since it was working. Maybe I should rerun the wizard for it as well. I have two ATI OTA cards as well. Did not use wizard for these either. Any comments as when we need to rerun the wizard? I did not reset up BTVE either. I have same number of tuners and my primes in BTVE are the last ones.

[Zogg]

Originally Posted by lschroeder

Any comments as when we need to rerun the wizard? I did not reset up BTVE either. I have same number of tuners and my primes in BTVE are the last ones.

If you have uninstalled the device and then reinstalled it (in software, not necessarily physically) then its possible that the device could wind up with a slightly different PCI configuration. You should run the Setup wizard on those devices just to make sure they are working.

HOWEVER, with your system, I'd just try them first and if you get errors, then run Setup. You have a complicated system with a lot of different tuners and also virtual tuners for the HDHR Prime, so running Setup might break a virtual tuner or something else. So I'd only run it if you have to.

[lschroeder]

Originally Posted by Zogg

If you have uninstalled the device and then reinstalled it (in software, not necessarily physically) then its possible that the device could wind up with a slightly different PCI configuration. You should run the Setup wizard on those devices just to make sure they are working.

HOWEVER, with your system, I'd just try them first and if you get errors, then run Setup. You have a complicated system with a lot of different tuners and also virtual tuners for the HDHR Prime, so running Setup might break a virtual tuner or something else. So I'd only run it if you have to.

Doing exactly what you said. Made 3 successful test recordings simultanesously using the updated drivers tuners and the prime as a tuner. Will keep you informed of any problems.

[bishop0369]

Originally Posted by ijourneaux

What version of the drivers are you using? I tried to go back to an older version of the drivers but the install package for 1.0.5.3 could not locate any devices. I am using version 1.7???

Bad news: Post #1371 in this thread states "if firmware is changed you can't roll back" and I think he's right. I installed 1.7 and after the washout I went back to 1.5 and had nothing but trouble until I was back to 1.7. I got my 5A bricks today and will have them in later tonight or in the morning; just hoping for a small sucess. I only have one HD-PVR powered up with a 3A or 2A wart, (won't know which one until I switch them out). I'll power up both and let it do it's thing and if it will work with a daily reboot, (HD-PVRs) for a week I try go to 2-days then 3 and work up to a week...

[Zogg]

Originally Posted by bishop0369

Bad news: Post #1371 in this thread states "if firmware is changed you can't roll back" and I think he's right. I installed 1.7 and after the washout I went back to 1.5 and had nothing but trouble until I was back to 1.7.

That's not good. Guess I missed that bit of info.

[lschroeder]

Originally Posted by Zogg

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Make sure your H.264 playback decoder is set to the Arcsoft Video Decoder in Playback settings. I also use it for MPEG2 as I think it works a bit better.
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In both my P4s, 2.4 and 3.4 ghz, and Athlon 2800+( all with either 3650 or 2600 GPU) XP BTV Link machines I had previously installed the Arcsoft Video Decoder.

With my new 5V 4A power supply and IR blaster working I was ready to put these older computers to work. On the Athlon 2800+ cpu usage was low and live tv with channel channeling worked well on my premium channels. The same Arcsoft on the P4s was near 100% and not useable.

I have the original HD PVR version 1 disk. I went inside to the setup for TME and uninstalled the software on the BTV Link P4s. Then without restarting the computers, I installed it again. Then I went to BTV Link and reset H264 to the Arcsoft decoder. Now both P4 are at the low CPU levels and useful for live HD PVR playback. Just wanted to let you know incase you have this problem.

I use BTV Link on two windows 7 machines at a much higher CPU rate since BTV doe not support hardware acceleration with windows 7. BTV Link is very useable with my more powerful windows 7 machines as they can handle the higher rate.

[bishop0369]

Originally Posted by Zogg

That's not good. Guess I missed that bit of info.

Me too at first and I think that was part of my problems. I got my 5A bricks and one was DOA so I could only use one but here’s the rundown… I pulled the 2A out; it was connected to the F1 and the 3A was connected to the D2. When I swapped them earlier I didn’t know what was connected to what and I think that failure was because of the firmware change. I had installed 1.7, panicked and went back to 1.5 and had lockups, and the same from both 1.6 versions, fixed the washout and thought I installed 1.7, I didn’t. When I swapped the warts back; not knowing I put the 3A back on the D2 and the 2A back on the F1; I checked my drivers and they were 1.6! So I updated the drivers to 1.7 and had several good recordings with one box. That was then and this is now: I have the 3A on the F1, it was the 2A model and the 5A on the C2, the 3A model. So now I’ve had a half a dozen successful “junk” recordings with no lockups! At least my darling wife can watch her Dr, P., Dr.O. and GH, (QAM) again and I don’t have to explain for the umpteenth time why BTV is locking up… I'll see how many recordings I can get before it fails.
Correction;
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I may need help!

[bishop0369]

[QUOTE=bishop0369;337003]I'll see how many recordings I can get before it fails.
Correction;
4 recordings, twice then the same error both times; BTV detected a hang…couldn’t stop the process! I’ll get a digital timer to do power cycles on the HD-PVRs, eBay link.
I may try MediaPortal ….
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250710482799...84.m1423.l2649

[lschroeder]

So far recording, viewing live, and channel changing seem to be functioning with my HD PVR and 4A power supply.

One hiccup is that when I use web admin to setup a manual recording for an on demand show, it records and shuts off the HD PVR correctly but I get an BTV error and show still has a red recording icon present. If I delete the associated files, the red recording icon disappears. When I check the log, all this occurs during the padding following the end of the recording. "... no data received for 30 seconds ... This 1 of 3 restarts ...." The screen when the on demand show ends behave differently and may not have a signal for a brief period. I think this is where the no data received for 30 seconds happens.

Any suggestions? For example I set the channel to where the show is normally played in web admin, then going into the STB and manually start the on demand show, pause it before the actual show begins, restart it at the same time I start the web admin to manually record. I think for some reason the ir blaster in this case fails to change the channel, which is actually good.

Once I delete the associated files, the recording seem to be OK. I like to add some padding to the show so that I get the complete recording. I quess I could trying cutting the recording short to see if the error disappears, but I would rather just have the complete show and delete the associated files.

Edit: Just checked recording with VideoRedo TVSuite. Padding had a dimension change 1920 by 1080 to 720 to 480 where show actually ends and on demand screen comes back. VideoRedo TVSuite shows green screen with this and ask what should it do. Checked Motorola 6412 iii it was sit to tv 4:3, 1080i output, 4:3 override to on. I change these to tv 16:9, 1080i output, 4:3 to 480p. What should 4:3 override be? The options are on, off, 480i, 480p, and stretch.

Note: I also watch tv directly with this cable STB. Output for HDMI/YPbPr is set to 1080i. Does 4:3 also apply to component? I cannot use display on my tv to see what is going on, since I have a Logitech Revue set to 1080p on this set as well. Just changed 4:3 override to off. 4:3i tv does interlace, 4:3p motorola 6412 does interlace, off display 4:3 in widescreen format with black columns to left and right, so thought I try it.

[Zogg]

Originally Posted by lschroeder

So far recording, viewing live, and channel changing seem to be functioning with my HD PVR and 4A power supply.

One hiccup is that when I use web admin to setup a manual recording for an on demand show, it records and shuts off the HD PVR correctly but I get an BTV error and show still has a red recording icon present. If I delete the associated files, the red recording icon disappears. When I check the log, all this occurs during the padding following the end of the recording. "... no data received for 30 seconds ... This 1 of 3 restarts ...." The screen when the on demand show ends behave differently and may not have a signal for a brief period. I think this is where the no data received for 30 seconds happens.

Any suggestions? For example I set the channel to where the show is normally played in web admin, then going into the STB and manually start the on demand show, pause it before the actual show begins, restart it at the same time I start the web admin to manually record. I think for some reason the ir blaster in this case fails to change the channel, which is actually good.

Once I delete the associated files, the recording seem to be OK. I like to add some padding to the show so that I get the complete recording. I quess I could trying cutting the recording short to see if the error disappears, but I would rather just have the complete show and delete the associated files.

Edit: Just checked recording with VideoRedo TVSuite. Padding had a dimension change 1920 by 1080 to 720 to 480 where show actually ends and on demand screen comes back. VideoRedo TVSuite shows green screen with this and ask what should it do. Checked Motorola 6412 iii it was sit to tv 4:3, 1080i output, 4:3 override to on. I change these to tv 16:9, 1080i output, 4:3 to 480p. What should 4:3 override be? The options are on, off, 480i, 480p, and stretch.

Note: I also watch tv directly with this cable STB. Output for HDMI/YPbPr is set to 1080i. Does 4:3 also apply to component? I cannot use display on my tv to see what is going on, since I have a Logitech Revue set to 1080p on this set as well. Just changed 4:3 override to off. 4:3i tv does interlace, 4:3p motorola 6412 does interlace, off display 4:3 in widescreen format with black columns to left and right, so thought I try it.

Sorry, I don't know what you should set the 4:3 override to. I don't think I've ever changed mine so it's at the default setting, probably off.

However, that change from 1080i to 720p is probably what is sending the HDPVR into la-la land. Someone figured this out a while back and you can find it in the list of fixes somewhere in this thread, to set the STB output to a fixed resolution. I have mine fixed to 720p, because it fixes a minor playback problem and my office TV is 720p only.

[lschroeder]

Originally Posted by Zogg

Sorry, I don't know what you should set the 4:3 override to. I don't think I've ever changed mine so it's at the default setting, probably off.

However, that change from 1080i to 720p is probably what is sending the HDPVR into la-la land. Someone figured this out a while back and you can find it in the list of fixes somewhere in this thread, to set the STB output to a fixed resolution. I have mine fixed to 720p, because it fixes a minor playback problem and my office TV is 720p only.

1,280x720 is 720p so my 720 by 480 would be 480i since 480i is up to 480 lines. 852x480 is 480p. The change from 1080i to 480i would have the same la-la land result. Default is 480i for 4:3 override. I will try the 4:3 off on a recording and report back. Motorola says that this sets 4:3 to widescreen mode, whether 1080i or 720p I do not know.

Edit: I am trying a second item as well. I added channel 99 On demand to the HD PVR menu. Set the box to 99. Did manual recording as before. No BTV error in a test recording.

[lschroeder]

We need to set 4:3 overide to off as well as HDMI/YPbPr output to either 720p or 1080i. VideoRedo TVSuite no longer shows the error for different video sizes.

4:3 Override set to off puts the STB to widescreen with black columns on the left and right.

I think the using of channel 99, the on demand channel, eliminates the 30 second error. I noticed that during my test recording the red HD PVR led went out when the actual show finished but came back on for my padding. Since I had the STB set to channel 99, on demand, to begin with and in the web admin manual record drop down list there was no error.

I think the error was wrong channel set in drop down menu before. I was using 99 on STB but like 952 and 954 in the manual drop down menu. The error said something about channel as well as 30 seconds. The log does not show channel part of error message and I dismissed the channel error reference part in BTV.

With both of these things fixed, it looks like no more la-la-land errors! Set the 2 things in STB and use the actual on demand channel and everything works for on demand recordings. I should qualify that this is for non-pay for view on demand. I have read elsewhere that pay for view will not work.

[bishop0369]

Originally Posted by lschroeder

We need to set 4:3 overide to off as well as HDMI/YPbPr output to either 720p or 1080i.

I think I've done it all and am still having troubles! I even upgraded to BTV_V4.9.3.6535 from 4.9.2.6323 to see if that would help. I set both STBs to 1080i, (model RNG150N) I didn't see any overide; regardless recordings are in 1080, HD & SD. I only have 1080i selected so the STBs will only output that format. Now what?!?!?
One thing I am seeing is from the log below, Using CyberLink encoder SDK and 480 720 stuff:

[2012/6/30 09:15:29] Using HD (High) quality.
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Using CyberLink encoder SDK
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Creating card builder for 'Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device'
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Set TV format to NTSC_M.
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Setting H.264 480 constant video bitrate to: 3500000
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Setting H.264 720 constant video bitrate to: 7000000
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Setting H.264 1080 constant video bitrate to: 8000000

[bishop0369]

I had 4 good recordings and got a "hang" finishing the 5th error "41" below...

[2012/6/30 19:01:00] CPVSRecorder:etachFromBaseEngine - Unprepare finished.
[2012/6/30 19:01:00] CPVSRecorder:etachFromBaseEngine - StopBaseEngine begins.
[2012/6/30 19:02:00] Detected a hang when trying to stop a recording!
[2012/6/30 19:02:05] Adding error: '41' with message: '<PropertyCollection><Property><Name>Recorder</Name><Value>External Cable Box - D2</Value></Property></PropertyCollection>' to the warning system

[Zogg]

Originally Posted by bishop0369

I think I've done it all and am still having troubles! I even upgraded to BTV_V4.9.3.6535 from 4.9.2.6323 to see if that would help. I set both STBs to 1080i, (model RNG150N) I didn't see any overide; regardless recordings are in 1080, HD & SD. I only have 1080i selected so the STBs will only output that format. Now what?!?!?
One thing I am seeing is from the log below, Using CyberLink encoder SDK and 480 720 stuff:

[2012/6/30 09:15:29] Using HD (High) quality.
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Using CyberLink encoder SDK
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Creating card builder for 'Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device'
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Set TV format to NTSC_M.
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Setting H.264 480 constant video bitrate to: 3500000
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Setting H.264 720 constant video bitrate to: 7000000
[2012/6/30 09:15:36] Setting H.264 1080 constant video bitrate to: 8000000

Those messages are normal. They are put in the log every time when BTV is setting up an HDPVR recorder.