BTV-Externinator - Alpha release

[Fonceur]

Originally Posted by cat6man

hey, i missed that one too.....................

Ok, so I updated the instructions...

Anyone able to perform an OTA channel scan with the HDHomeRun and post it?

[jmaver]

Here is my qam-hrc log:

[Zogg]

Here's my OTA channel scan.

Z

[Fonceur]

Ok, thanks for the various scans, that seems to cover most possibilities.

Originally Posted by jmaver

mine is a local drive. I just made my media drive m:

Ok, but still, the process of naming it "M:" might be something that confuses VLC through telnet, so if you could test a recording on C: or D:...

[jmaver]

I played around with some scripts(attached) and it looks like the vlc stuff has to come before the hdhr stuff for it to work for me. See attached.
Use record.bat to start recording
use stop.bat to stop recording
tst10 is a telnet scripting client I found.
Fonceur would it be possible to get a version that changes that order?

[Fonceur]

Originally Posted by jmaver

I played around with some scripts(attached) and it looks like the vlc stuff has to come before the hdhr stuff for it to work for me. See attached.
Use record.bat to start recording
use stop.bat to stop recording
tst10 is a telnet scripting client I found.
Fonceur would it be possible to get a version that changes that order?

Well, according to what Nick mentionned before, it there wasn't anything already listening to that port (i.e. VLC), the HDHomeRun would just shutdown the stream, which would explain the problem. For some reasons cat6man is not affected by this, which might have something to do with one of you blocking something (Nick mentionned it, but it escapes me presently, basically some acknowledgments). If you go back to the QAM thread, you'll see some arguements about the order to do things...

EDIT: Basically, cat6man probably uses a firewall that blocks the ICMP traffic, so that the HDHomeRun never knows that no one is listening...

[cfaslave]

Originally Posted by Fonceur

Well, according to what Nick mentionned before, it there wasn't anything already listening to that port (i.e. VLC), the HDHomeRun would just shutdown the stream, which would explain the problem. For some reasons cat6man is not affected by this, which might have something to do with one of you blocking something (Nick mentionned it, but it escapes me presently, basically some acknowledgments). If you go back to the QAM thread, you'll see some arguements about the order to do things...

I'm with John - it's affecting me also as I need to have vlc already running before btvnego sends the command. How is this working for cat6man? Is there a setting or something he has different than us perhaps?

[Fonceur]

Version .03 (alpha) is available:

- HDHomeRun: it is now possible to start "VLC first" for the recordings. (should prevent the HDHomeRun unit from closing the stream since no one was listening...)

[cat6man]

Originally Posted by Fonceur

EDIT: Basically, cat6man probably uses a firewall that blocks the ICMP traffic, so that the HDHomeRun never knows that no one is listening...

i do??? all i have is xp firewall running

in any case, i'm glad you guys found your problem......i'd feel a lot better if i knew why they differ though.............

[cat6man]

this morning nick has a suggestion that the hrc stuff may need some additional delays inserted...............fyi

[jmaver]

That seemed to work!
The BTV warning about not finding the tuner is normal, right?
And I want to hide the file if my BTVLibraryService is at 50% cpu right?

[cat6man]

yes.....but why does my system not have the 50% cpu????????

i'm on windows xp...what operating system are you using?
what version of btv?

[cat6man]

Originally Posted by jmaver

I played around with some scripts(attached) and it looks like the vlc stuff has to come before the hdhr stuff for it to work for me. See attached.
Use record.bat to start recording
use stop.bat to stop recording
tst10 is a telnet scripting client I found.
Fonceur would it be possible to get a version that changes that order?

this is really strange....if you go back to the qam thread, you'll see i used the same batch approach to demonstrate the recording methodology and sequence, even using tst10!

what i don't understand is why the sequence you use works?

one more question: if you never open vlc and just send the hdhr commands, does NetPerSec show udp streaming has started? this has always been my external check that the hdhr is set up and streaming properly. i've never had to have vlc started to get this to work though......something is going on and i think we need to get to the bottom of it, even if we have a workaround, since things like this can come back to bite us in the butt........

[Fonceur]

Originally Posted by jmaver

That seemed to work!

Good! In that case, I was the one "dense" for not listening to that order problem until it was "spelld out"...

The BTV warning about not finding the tuner is normal, right?

Indeed, can only delete/ignore that warning until SnapStream adds official support or add some kind of reminder system/virtual capture device. Well, there is also the possibility of creating a virtual capture device driver that would tell BTV that the recording is going fine and all, but I haven't the faintest idea how that would be done.

And I want to hide the file if my BTVLibraryService is at 50% cpu right?

Indeed, BTVLibraryService is going in overdrive, updating its list everytime a file changes in a folder it monitors...

[Fonceur]

Originally Posted by cat6man

what i don't understand is why the sequence you use works?

As Nick was saying all along, if nothing is listening (i.e. VLC or NetPerSec?) the stream will close itself. The only exception being if the ICMP traffic is blocked by a firewall, since the HDHomeRun never hears back of any problems, it simply assumes/hopes that everything is fine.