Manual Recording Conflict

[bradpvr]

Hey

I'm running 3.7.4.

I setup a manual recording to record a movie (Charlie and the Chocolate Facotry) on Wed at 5:00 AM. (The guide data doesn't show that it's a movie, just PPV, hence why I did a manual recording).

I had a show set to tape at 5:30 am ( Blind Date, for 30 minutes) on the same source (Dishnetwork Sat.)

So anyhoot. I checked the Upcoming recordings and Blind Date at 5:30 was set to record, and the movie wasn't going to record.

Does the conflict popup not show up when creating a manual recording and it conflicts?

And an intuitive program would assume that since I'm doing something MANUALLY that it'd be higher priority (ie I'm taking my time to do something by hand, not automatically like episodes).

But anyways, my beef is that it didn't prompt for conflict? I had to up the priority of the movie.

Any ideas?

Brad

[stevewh]

I think there is a setting in web admin somewhere that you can specify that manual recordings are to be entered at the highest priority. I'm sorry I don't have the time to hunt it down at the moment. I schedule all my recordings manually, and when I schedule a one-time recording over, say, a Weekly recording, it always works properly. the one-time recording goes into the schedule, and the weekly one isn't recorded. So it seems like there must be a setting somewhere. When this situation occurs, I never see a conflict dialog or warning; I don't know if this is because I always schedule shows in web admin, or because it's set up to handle conflicts automatically without giving a warning.

[bradpvr]

Hey

I think the setting you are speaking of is what Priority to add Remote Recordings at.

I looked through the web admin, and don't see a setting for Manual Recordings.


Hmmm the search goes on. I wonder if BTV 4.0 has this. Anyone using it available to comment?

Thanks!
Brad

[stevewh]

Originally Posted by bradpvr

I think the setting you are speaking of is what Priority to add Remote Recordings at. I looked through the web admin, and don't see a setting for Manual Recordings.

Yes, you're right. I checked both web admin and the viewscape, and there's nothing in either about manual recordings. Also, I apparently have my "add remote recordings" set to Lowest, so it's not using that setting to control both remote and manual recordings.

I thought maybe the only reason it's been working for me is that once in a while I do go through my recording jobs (in the Viewscape) and prioritize them and I've never tried to override a high priority job... but that can't be it, because the priority of the job you're trying to override will never make a difference: if you have any choice for new jobs, it could only be Highest or Lowest. If Highest, then in the case of a conflict the override will *always* work (it's at the top of the priority list), and if Lowest, it will *never* work (bottom of the list, lower than any existing job).

In fact, all my one-time recordings show up at the top of the priority list in Viewscape > Setup Recordings > Review Settings and Priorities, pushed down like a stack, in the order I created the jobs, most recent on top.

But it's also the *one-time recordings* that are, as a group, on top... maybe "the rule" is that one-time recordings always override weekly ones?

When you add a new job, does it go to the top or bottom of your priorities list? Sounds like it went to the bottom(?), since you had to boost the movie's priority to make it record. Weird.

Anyone else know for sure how this works?

[bradpvr]

When I add recordings from the program guide, it goes to the top of the list, like I'd expect.

When I add a manual it goes to the bottom.

Not much I can do I guess other than be aware of it.

Still suprising it doesn't prompt that it's a conflict, seems like it's not invoking the engine.

[Eric3a]

Yes I noticed that before. Thought it was just me!
I have to increase the priority all the way up for manual recordings.

I agree the the logical would be:
-Give you a conflict warning.
-worst case, assume you really want the manual recording over the automated one.

Eric

[bradpvr]

Ok phewf. I thought it was me too.

Not really sure if this is a bug or just a silly way of working!

I'm guessing BTV 4.0 doesn't fix it either.

[nanook105]

I agree that it should give you a conflict warning, but I'm not sure that I would want the manual recording to have priority over the automated one. I'd be a dead man if I scheduled a manual recording of something that ended up getting recorded instead of Oprah

[bradpvr]

haha good point.

But agreed on the conflict box. You are running 4.0 aren't you? Does it exhibit this behaviour?

[nanook105]

Originally Posted by bradpvr

haha good point.

But agreed on the conflict box. You are running 4.0 aren't you? Does it exhibit this behaviour?

Yes - it does (or doesn't do) the same thing. I submitted a bug/tech support request on it.

[bradpvr]

Originally Posted by nanook105

Yes - it does (or doesn't do) the same thing. I submitted a bug/tech support request on it.

Perfect, hopefully they'll do something with it.