btv feature request ability to move recodings

[xmx]

a nice feature to add to the btv interface would be to move the recorded show to a different disc or directory. a button for this would fit nicely between show squeeze the option to delete the file. I use multiple drives and folders and depending on the type of show, i have to move it to a different folder, you might even want to add this feature to showsqueese which i use alot.
Thanks
xmx

[Khris]

This feature is already available. In the web interface, go to Library, and then click on the Options button. There will be a MOVE button here.

You need to have the destination folder setup from within BTV however.

You can also setup Showsqueeze to move the file into a different folder once it's been compressed.

I record all my shows into an MPEG folder. Showsqueeze is setup to compress and move them to a WMV folder and delete the original MPEG file. Once in the WMV folder, I can watch them etc.

If I'm recording a movie and want to later cut the commercials out of, I won't Showsqueeze it until after doing an edit.

[dlandrum]

I use the admin feature to move shows, but it really is poor as one can move one file at a time. It would be better if I could check the 10 shows and move them in bulk ... as one can delete in bulk.

[BenH]

I am a little surprised the user has to edit the web pages himself with programs that cost moneys . I wonder how much that Microsoft dot net programing language costs . It would be nice if there was free tools to edit .aspx files .

We are allowed to edit those webpages in the web admin . They converted everything to aspx to let users customized BTV . There is one customized web admin in the downloads forum . I can not use those since I am in Beta BTV .

[pandashark]

does moving work properly yet? it used to be that the db information about the show would be lost when moving with the web interface...but maybe that's been fixed in one of these releases. i havne't tried it recently though.

[sainswor99]

Originally Posted by BenH

I am a little surprised the user has to edit the web pages himself with programs that cost moneys . I wonder how much that Microsoft dot net programing language costs . It would be nice if there was free tools to edit .aspx files .

We are allowed to edit those webpages in the web admin . They converted everything to aspx to let users customized BTV . There is one customized web admin in the downloads forum . I can not use those since I am in Beta BTV .

Actually, there is a free ASP.NET editor from Microsoft: WebMatrix

I've never used it, but it should work.

Stu

[Rich A]

As long as this thread is revolving around "moving" ... I have one to add.

When setting up a new recording from the EPG screen, it would be VERY handy to be able to select the proper folder at that time.

With the current setup, if I see a new show (or shows) I want to make a regular recording, after setting it up, I then have to navigate the menus to get to the screen where I can edit the recording's settings and THEN select the folder for it's storage.


We should be able to select that option when we select the show to record via the EPG screen.

Since every new recording defaults to the default folder, if I add say 4 new ones, (and want them to go to their proper folder ie: talk show, movie, drama, etc) I have to "edit" each recording one by one, finding them in the recordings list and clicking on their edit properties.

[lise]

does moving work properly yet? it used to be that the db information about the show would be lost when moving with the web interface...but maybe that's been fixed in one of these releases. i havne't tried it recently though.

I don't think it has been fixed. I 'moved' a few files using Web Admin, and lost all DB info for those shows. Why bother going through the trouble of using Web Admin (which is *very* slow and cumbersome) when IE is much faster, especially if Web Admin doesn't save the DB info. Perhaps this is a bug?

[dlandrum]

... off topic ...

Originally Posted by Rich A

When setting up a new recording from the EPG screen, it would be VERY handy to be able to select the proper folder at that time ...

Adding a new show takes about x steps:
1) find the show
2) set to record all/new
3) drill up and then down to get the list of show priorities
4) change the priority and scroll back down to where you just prioritized it
5) edit the details to set the proper drive and sometimes turn off smartskip (hbo, showtime, etc)

If I seem whipped by this it is because I just setup about 10 shows this morning .... and I see another 20+ comming for mid-september when the guide catches-up


RE: moving files ... using the GUI is too innefficient. I just cut and paste the file using OS and everything seems to work-out ... except they sow-up as new recordings.

[lise]

RE: moving files ... using the GUI is too innefficient. I just cut and paste the file using OS and everything seems to work-out ... except they sow-up as new recordings.

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But don't you lose all show info (show description)? I know I do when I use Web Admin's move function, and I seem to recall the same thing happening via Explorer as well.

[boomerang]

Originally Posted by dlandrum

I use the admin feature to move shows, but it really is poor as one can move one file at a time. It would be better if I could check the 10 shows and move them in bulk ... as one can delete in bulk.

Good point. I'll take it a step further though.

A product advertised as "equal to Tivo" needs to have *all* feature/settings/options in the 10 foot UI. Anything beyond that (such as web UI) is a bonus. A *requirement* of having to use a web UI is a *detriment* to usability if the user model is "Tivo like functionality" as the ads proclaim. If you can't do *everything* via the remote control, then the user model is broken and needs to be addressed, as third party reviews keep saying.

That said, you can (one at a time) use Show Squeeze to move programs. Just use the "copy" option rather than the compress option.

Or, more to the point, just set the records job so the shows will simply record to the drive where you want them to be. I record all movies to one place, all crime drama to another, comedy to another, sports to another, etc. Set once and forget...

[dlandrum]

Noted. Where did Tvio come into this?

Tivo:
Moving a show from a Tivo unit to a desktop is not done via the 10' ui. It is a seperate application called tivo desktop. In a multi-Tivo network, watching a show recorded on Tivo1 via Tivo2 copies the show across the network. One can start watching the show, but if you are wireless like most networked Tivos ... and 802.11b like most networked Tivos older than 6 months, the network copy rate is slower than the watch rate. So one must plan ahead to watch a show in another room by starting a copy, then returning to watch it.

The current marketing on the website is "RIVAL TIVO". To me, this does not mean "copies all functionality of Tivo". To me, it means BTV has some features that are better than Tivo and Tivo has some features better than BTV.



possible examples of times when managing data at the file system level is required:

1) I had a drive that was about to fail. I installed a new drive and copied the shows to the new drive.

2) I have extra space on a network drive (partition on another machine) that I use for shows that I know I want to keep a bit longer. I have this setup as a folder in BTV. BTV will fail to record to that networked drive, but it will read all day long.

3) Using your setup ... I notice that due to recent show-watching habits, I have watched less Comedy shows and that drive is almost full. I would copy some comedy shows to my sports drive so that they were not deleted or a critical comedy show did not miss a recording.