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Old 06-28-2005, 04:20 PM
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BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

I know there have been many post on the fuzzy picture issue, sorry if I am wasting bandwidth. I am very please with the combination of BTV and BM, the fuzzy picture is just hard to ignore.

I have followed several posts, they just don't seem to fit what I am looking at.

I have the system specs in the sig with a Geforce 5000 agp video card using the s-video out. The system detects my tv and everything looks great in BM: DVDs are crisp and clear. In BTV I have the fuzzy picture or ghosting. I have turned off antialiasing. I am using a 4ft s-video cable and it is positioned outside the entertainment center, not near a battery backup or speakers or really anything. I have BTV set to record at Best (DVD quality). I am looking for a BTV setting that will help clear up the fuzzy picture. Running BTV3.5.1.

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Old 06-28-2005, 06:07 PM
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

Try this and let me know what you see...

Go into BM and play a recorded show from BTV. Does it look the same as it does in BTV? My experience has been that recorded shows never look as good as DVDs, since you are doing realtime mpg compression. If you are seeing a difference in quality between BM and BTV playing the exact same file though, there could be something else going on that is tweakable...
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Old 06-28-2005, 08:53 PM
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

ah ha. Your right the show appear the same. I went into the web admin and I see that the mpeg 2 encoder is set to Default. The other option is snapstream basic. With the Hauppauge 500s, I thought it was hardware encoding. The TV format is set to NTSC_M. I have been seeing some postings about the Nvidia decoder will that help or some other decoder. Have any suggestions? I hate to compare here, but picture quality is not as good as with tivo.
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

Yea your Hauppauge card does to hardware ENcoding, but the DEcoding is still done in software.

I would look into trying the nvidia decoder or maybe the intervideo decoder, most report having better quality results using one of those. Also might want to make sure you are using one of the high quality
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:22 AM
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

Huh? I got real excited when I heard high quality.

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Also might want to make sure you are using one of the high quality
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

Sorry, don’t want you to get too excited for what could be nothing. My previous post got cut off for some reason (probably bumped something which deleted my last few words).

BTV has a few different default recording qualities to choose from (or you can create a custom one).

If you go to web admin -> settings then under default quality there should be some options such as fair, good, better, best. I just wanted you to double check that you are using the highest option (or some other custom made quality that is going to be properly taking advantage of your hardware encoding card).
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

The recording is set to Best. I have the playback settings at Cyberlink/SP Decoder, 3d Accelerated, and Deinterlacing at none. The picture is much better, but I still notice things like a ticker or fast motion video has some ghosting or trails.
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

does turning on deinterlacing help?
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Old 06-29-2005, 02:49 PM
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

I would think that the only thing that would make one different from the other would be if BM and BTV were each set to use a different decoder. Pretty sure you can do that. Just make sure your BTV decorder is the same one as what you are using in BM. Or am I "over-simplifying" this? If you are indeed running both the same, then disregard me entirely.
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

I am unsure of the decoder used for BM what ever the default is. Is there an easy way to tell. At work now, will try later tonight.

Thanks for all the good suggestions.
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

Forget about my comment on the codecs being the same. I wasn't thinking straight. For some reason I was thinking about the DVD decoder choice in BM, vs the BTV video decoder. Whole different ball park there. Sorry.



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I am unsure of the decoder used for BM what ever the default is. Is there an easy way to tell. At work now, will try later tonight.

Thanks for all the good suggestions.
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Old 06-30-2005, 09:45 AM
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

Have any of you tried the steps on this post?

Specifically the Intervideo Codec

Or the below registry entries

Changing the values to 1

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IviSDK4Hauppauge\Commo n\VideoDec\Dxva

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IviSDK4Hauppauge\Commo n\VideoDec\Hwmc
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

Over the last two days I have noticed that using 3d acceleration will bring the system to a crawl after using BTV for 12 or 13 hours. I switched it to overlay to see if that helps.
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Re: BTV picture Fuzzy BM picture clear

The other option for Deinterlacing is hardware and that looks bad, motion is very bad.
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