FF/RW Directx 9.0c Bug

[hokieinidaho]

I have 9.0c with no problems. Unless I'm missing something?

[Bilar Crais]

Originally Posted by hokieinidaho

I have 9.0c with no problems. Unless I'm missing something?

You won't notice unless you are using 3D Mode rendering with hardware deinterlace in BTV.

[hokieinidaho]

Turned on deinterlacing and experienced the following during FF: It just sits on the last frame viewed until I let up on the FF. Now I see...


What does interlacing do, anyhow?

[wxboy]

Deinterlacing takes the two feild video signal (interlaced, scans all odd, then all even lines, 1,3,5,7.... then 2,4,6,8....) which is scanned in on a standard TV and makes it a single field (progressive, scans all lines, 1,2,3,4,,5 ....) which is shown on a computer monitor of HD TV. Note: HD programs are automatically progressive and HD TV's have auto deinterlacers for standard programs. Deinterlacing attempts to get rid of the highly notable lines that you notice in the signal, especaially in high action programming. It is very beneficial, especially for sports, which look horible with deinterlacing off, and action movies, which are basically unwatchable. Note: the deinterlacing only occurs while watching. It is not part of the recorded files, so if you watch them with another media player, they will be interlaced unless the player/decoder used has deinterlacing options.

[darren_e]

Now that I own an nVidia 6600GT I am curious to find out who (nVidia owners) *IS NOT* experiencing the 9.0c problem?

In other words, who *DID NOT* have to do the quartz.dll trick?

[Bilar Crais]

[QUOTE=darren_e]Now that I own an nVidia 6600GT I am curious to find out who (nVidia owners) *IS NOT* experiencing the 9.0c problem?

Darren: How is the tearing situation in 3D with that new card? I read somewhere that the minimum for VMR9 rendering with no tearing is a 5600...that the 5200 just doesn't have enough onions.

[darren_e]

Originally Posted by Bilar Crais

Darren: How is the tearing situation in 3D with that new card? I read somewhere that the minimum for VMR9 rendering with no tearing is a 5600...that the 5200 just doesn't have enough onions.

Oddly enough, I'm not experiencing any problems with this card. I went to turn on my HTPC last night (TV/Receiver - not the computer iteself) and saw that it had updated to Service Pack 2. I was a little worried about it so that's why I asked the question.

I have yet to see any problems in 3d rendering mode- even with DirectX 9.0c. And I don't seem to need to do the quartz.dll trick (yet?)

Using the PNY 6600GT AGP card, I have yet to see tearing, zoom issues, or blurring. Although, since the Service Pack 2 upgrade, I only had about 10 minutes to test everything (pausing, ff, and play) but I still didn't notice anything different about the PQ.
If I want to be picky- every now and then I'll notice very slight blurring during low motion scenes such as someone's head slightly swaying as they walk but I don't know if this is just a normal issue or some kind of tweak that needs to be made.

This is my very first nVidia card ever so I can't compare it to anything but my older ATI cards. I just wish I would have picked up this card a long time ago and saved myself from lots of headaches.

My *ONLY* complaint about this card is the noise it produces. Without a good case- you are going to hear it. I can hear it when the TV is off and that may be an issue for some people.

[Hurin]

[QUOTE=Bilar Crais]

Originally Posted by darren_e

Now that I own an nVidia 6600GT I am curious to find out who (nVidia owners) *IS NOT* experiencing the 9.0c problem?

Darren: How is the tearing situation in 3D with that new card? I read somewhere that the minimum for VMR9 rendering with no tearing is a 5600...that the 5200 just doesn't have enough onions.

I still get the FF/RW bug with my 6600 GT AGP. I haven't done the quartz fix on it yet since I just rebuilt the whole system. Was going to see if I can live with it.

[darren_e]

Originally Posted by Hurin

I still get the FF/RW bug with my 6600 GT AGP. I haven't done the quartz fix on it yet since I just rebuilt the whole system. Was going to see if I can live with it.

I wasn't going to update my computer but as it turns out, I didn't have automatic updates disabled and I came to my PC with the SP2 configurator asking me what to do about Firewall, Antivirus, and Updates...

All are OFF- I have a hardware firewall that protects all four of my computers, I don't use antivirus because no e-mail or browsing is done on the HTPC and it's scanned from my main computer via network, and updates...well, I thought I originally had them turned off...this time I do so, no more surprises!

Your signature states otherwise, Hurin. You saying you had it fixed at one point and now you are just going to live with it?

[Hurin]

Originally Posted by darren_e

Your signature states otherwise, Hurin. You saying you had it fixed at one point and now you are just going to live with it?

My signature also states that I'm running a Radeon 9200. I'll update my signature when this whole 6600GT thing shakes out. I'm waiting for a replacement card now since the eVGA one I just got has problems (heatsink detached from the GPU!. . . which I'm not going to fix myself because I decided I wanted the Leadtek).

H

[darren_e]

Originally Posted by Hurin

My signature also states that I'm running a Radeon 9200. I'll update my signature when this whole 6600GT thing shakes out. I'm waiting for a replacement card now since the eVGA one I just got has problems (heatsink detached from the GPU!. . . which I'm not going to fix myself because I decided I wanted the Leadtek).
H

Let me know how the Leadtek works as far as the fan noise. I wanted a 6600 that had dual DVI so I was limited on which vendor to use and my PNY 6600GT is quite loud if it wasn't for my case.

[g808]

Originally Posted by darren_e

Oddly enough, I'm not experiencing any problems with this card. I went to turn on my HTPC last night (TV/Receiver - not the computer iteself) and saw that it had updated to Service Pack 2. I was a little worried about it so that's why I asked the question.

I have yet to see any problems in 3d rendering mode- even with DirectX 9.0c. And I don't seem to need to do the quartz.dll trick (yet?)

Using the PNY 6600GT AGP card, I have yet to see tearing, zoom issues, or blurring. Although, since the Service Pack 2 upgrade, I only had about 10 minutes to test everything (pausing, ff, and play) but I still didn't notice anything different about the PQ.
If I want to be picky- every now and then I'll notice very slight blurring during low motion scenes such as someone's head slightly swaying as they walk but I don't know if this is just a normal issue or some kind of tweak that needs to be made.

This is my very first nVidia card ever so I can't compare it to anything but my older ATI cards. I just wish I would have picked up this card a long time ago and saved myself from lots of headaches.

My *ONLY* complaint about this card is the noise it produces. Without a good case- you are going to hear it. I can hear it when the TV is off and that may be an issue for some people.

Sorry if this is kinda hijacking this thread, but what kind of TV do you have your 6600GT hooked up to? Are you using DVI or component out? If so, did you have any issues getting it to work? What drivers are you using?

Just curious since I want to upgrade to a 6600, but have heard horror stories about trying to get it to work with an HDTV via component/DVI due to nVidia's drivers.

[darren_e]

I'm using DVI to a Hitachi 65S700 (Rear Proj CRT) and I wasted $20.00 on Powerstrip because Powerstrip was not needed to fit everything on my desktop.

I can't say how well the special Component Dongle works because I've never hooked it up. I can say that DVI worked right from the get-go.

Everything was flawless and I'm using the latest forceware drivers along with nVidia's DVD codec.

I personally chose the PNY for these reasons-

1. Dual DVI
2. Comes with two DVI-VGA adapters
3. Effective 1000Mhz DDR3 RAM

Like I say with every post about this card- it is quite noisy so make sure to have a good case for it as well as a good power supply since you will have to connect one of your 4pin molex +12v power plugs to it.

[Hurin]

I have my 6600GT AGP connected via the component-out dongle (the dongle connects to the multi-pin S-Video connector on the video card). No complaints at all. I have run it at both 720x480p and 1080i. . . works perfectly. I have a 53" CRT-based RPTV (Sony KP-53HS10).

I have seen this thread over at AVS where people are going nuts trying to get an *exact* refresh rate so that they never see a hiccup over their DVI connections to their projectors. . . but that's the only "horror story" I'm aware of. . .

I haven't noticed a lot of jerkiness or the "Jutter" they're noticing. But, since my heatsink problem has the card locking up my computer, I haven't really been able to test terribly well.

The new Leadtek replacement arrives today! So, hopefully I'll have more later in case anyone cares! Oh, and I plan on quieting it down with a Zalman fanmate fan controller connected to it via a 2-pin --> 3-pin adapter cable that I picked up at frozencpu.com. Assuming, of course, that this won't cause overheating problems.

Best Regards,

H

[darren_e]

Ok,

Watching a recorded show revealed the DirectX 9.0c bug but Live TV did not...

Quartz.dll here I come.

EDIT:

Just like everybody else, the quartz.dll fixed everything. I guess it's better to have everything updated ::shrug::
I just can't help but think that Microsoft is holding back on this issue since they are pushing Windows MCE. Make everyone else's PVR software run like crap while Windows MCE works flawlessly.
Coincidence....I think NOT!