[addon] New Web Admin

[bradpvr]

Not currently compatible with BTV 3.7x


Hey Guys,

20050529: Made sure read only users can't change security settings. This version *might* also fix issues with people using newer then BTV Link 3.5.1. Let me know!


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Edit: Here I've attached the latest version to make it easier to find :)

I've started to get my feet wet with the web admin and I've made the following changes:


Defaulted Library List to "By Series"

Removed many clicks to show squeeze a show (now it's right off the library page, instead of options -> show squeeze).

Redirected show squeeze saved page back to library list instead of displaying a success message. I do this since I do many show squeezes at once.

Added some highlighting in the log file to display in red when a file is deleted. Might add more stuff in here if I think about it.

What I want to do next is be able to delete many recording entries at once... I have about 15-20 record once jobs that I'd like to clean out.

Anyone else got any ideas that we can do to improve the web admin?

I can also distribute these mods to anyone who wants them :)

Edit: Just added in the library listing to show the episode title :)

[nanook105]

Good start. I don't know about everyone else, but I have hundreds of movies that I have recorded over time (and continue to record) that don't fit into the series concept (especially the pre 3.5 recordings). New movies get a series of Movies, but that is probably too generic a category to be useful. For that reason (and others), I need to edit the show details all of the time. Right now, editing show details doesn't even work very well (I have a couple of outstanding beta bugs). So, it would be nice to be able to:


Select a group of shows from a list, and globally change the series on all of them. For example, Movies - Drama, Movies - Comedy, etc.
Get to the edit details page for a single show without going though a number of other screens (simular to how you cleaned up showsqueeze)
Select a group of shows from a list, and move them to another folder.
If you are looking for someone to help test your changes, just let me know.

[bradpvr]

Hey,


Those sound like good ideas. I was thinking the edit thing myself as well.

I'd like to get you my changes, but how do I do that? I'm not sure, do I send you the BTVWebAdmin.dll or something?

Thanks!

[nanook105]

Hey,


Those sound like good ideas. I was thinking the edit thing myself as well.

I'd like to get you my changes, but how do I do that? I'm not sure, do I send you the BTVWebAdmin.dll or something?

Thanks!
Just be aware that there are existing bugs in these processes. For example, if you move a show, it currently loses all of the details. From the log, I seem to remember that it is doing something out of order, but it has been a while since I tried this. Also, I recently tried to change the series on a couple of movies, and got very inconsistant results. For both of them, I was trying to add a series of Movies - Action. One worked completely, the other added the series of Movies - Action, but it also changed the title of the movie to Action - Series. The Very weird.

I'm hoping that one of the admins can give us a hint on how to facilitate sharing these changes for testing.

[bradpvr]

Yeah, I ran into a few of those bugs myself, and I'm sure I created some as well.

Just FYI, when you do get my changes, I'd close your eyes tight because I'm not sure if something might go wrong (disclaimer :)

[vogelap]

I'm anxious to see the changes that come from this discussion!

[nanook105]

One more that I would love to see in web admin. The status section should be expanded to include Todays scheduled recordings, and should show the current status of each tuner (inactive, watching live TV channel 9, Recording Simpsons on channel 3, etc) I don't know if all of that could fit into the current status box, or if it would make more sense as a separate page.

We should also take a look at some of the early complaints from the beta testing and just after the 3.5 release. I seem to remember a lot of people that made a decision to not upgrade based on their problems with web admin.

[vogelap]

I use the WebAdmin almost exclusively -- even when I'm sitting in front of the PVR.

One thing that would be AWESOME would be to add a system status monitor to the WebAdmin -- certainly free space on the hard drive(s), but maybe also temperature, uptime, and anything else useful.

I've made several (!) suggestions for the WebAdmin. If people are interested in them, I can drag them out of the bug tracker and post them here...

[bradpvr]

From my discussions with SS, it looks like we just need to compile and zip up the aspx files.

This won't be good though if you've made your own changes though.

But yeah, take your suggestion and post them here. I will get at them when I can :)

Right now I'm working on moving multiple files at once, as I need to do this often.

[bnflaherty]

So far... looks good!

[bradpvr]

So far... looks good!

What, the stuff I did? You must be kidding :)

[vogelap]

Another thing that would be awesome (I cannot believe they left this out) would be to SORT by whatever heading you want... So, for example, I could click Library->All Shows and then click the header to sort the display by either DATE or SHOW NAME. This should go throughout the WebUI... Including upcoming recordings, etc.

I'd also like to see an icon for if the show is in WMV, MPEG, or some other format...

WebUI: Library-> (showname) should show the episode description.

Oh! And the ability to manage MULTIPLE logs -- edit, download, or delete them -- would be a great addition.

As would the ability to delete all SUCCESSFUL ShowSqueeze log entries in WebUI: ShowSqueeze at once -- a checkbox or something that checks if "ShowSqueezeStatus==Successful" and deletes 'em. It would, of course, skip those that are still running and any that had failed. Barring that, putting the DELETE LOG ITEM button on the front page would be nice (so you don't have to click OPTIONS to delete the ShowSqueeze log). This is just the LOG entry in WebUI: ShowSqueeze; not the actualy files.

I'll pull the rest of my wish-list out of the bug tracker and post it shortly.

[bradpvr]

Hey,

I added the episode title to the library, instead of just having the show name. It gets pretty conjested in there, and probably moreso if I added the description.

What do you think, would the title be enough?

Thanks,
Brad

[vogelap]

I'm not in favor of having the episode description on the Library page. I think it would be, as you said, too cluttered. Unless you can do the episode description as a mouseover...

What I'd like is this... Say you're looking at your recording of The Simpsons...

You click Library then OPTIONS next to The Simpsons episode. On THAT page, I think the Episode Description should appear.

[bradpvr]

I'm not in favor of having the episode description on the Library page. I think it would be, as you said, too cluttered. Unless you can do the episode description as a mouseover...

What I'd like is this... Say you're looking at your recording of The Simpsons...

You click Library then OPTIONS next to The Simpsons episode. On THAT page, I think the Episode Description should appear.

That can be arranged :)

[bradpvr]

Hey Guys,

Just FYI I've added the episode description to the options page.

I'm still working on this multiple move thing, it might be a little over my head with all this threading stuff, but I'm still going.

I've also started working on adding the amount of disk space left. I think I'm going to check ALL drives that are available instead of just the default one. What you think?

[nanook105]

I think I'm going to check ALL drives that are available instead of just the default one. What you think?
At minimum, all of the drives that have known BTV folders, but all drives would be nice. How are you going to handle network drives that are shared folders or unc folders ?

[bradpvr]

At minimum, all of the drives that have known BTV folders, but all drives would be nice. How are you going to handle network drives that are shared folders or unc folders ?

Well, I don't want to put the carriage before the horse, so first I'm just gonna do local drives, and go from there.

I *think* the System.Management might even have the ability to show networked drives, not sure.

[debennett2]

I'd love to see user accounts implemented again. The web admin was what set Snapstream apart from the competition. In it's efforts to try to catch up in other aspects (multi-tuner) and (server/client), they lost the web admin. I definately appreciate anyone's efforts to get this up and running properly again! Thanks!

[bradpvr]

I'd love to see user accounts implemented again. The web admin was what set Snapstream apart from the competition. In it's efforts to try to catch up in other aspects (multi-tuner) and (server/client), they lost the web admin. I definately appreciate anyone's efforts to get this up and running properly again! Thanks!

Hey,

I never used the user accounts, can you elaborate a little on what it did?

Thanks!
Brad

[debennett2]

Not a problem at all! It allowed a person to login to the webpage with credentials. One might have administrative credentials while others may only have view only credentials. It really helps out when you have your site open to the world to be able to restrict those you don't want to have access without giving everyone admin capabilities. Make sense? Thanks!

[noodleNT]

Check and Uncheck all files would be nice to see again. When ever I have to do a reinstall I have to spend 30 minutes selecting each box to unmark them as perm.

I was also going to build a "Mobile" version of the site so it displayed better and quicker on a PDA.

BTW... where can we download these changes?

[bradpvr]

Check and Uncheck all files would be nice to see again. When ever I have to do a reinstall I have to spend 30 minutes selecting each box to unmark them as perm.

I was also going to build a "Mobile" version of the site so it displayed better and quicker on a PDA.

BTW... where can we download these changes?

Hey,

Well I can upload a zip file of the aspx files for you guys that way you can view it as well. It won't be any fancy CVS or nothing.

That sound OK?

[bradpvr]

Just FYI, I've got the disk free space almost done. Just gonna make it only show the valid video folder drives.

From what I can see, it should also pick up network folders.

It's using the WMI and I'm only excluding CDROM/Floppy/Removable storage from the query.

I don't have any networked folders, so I won't be able to test that.

[bradpvr]

The free space thing is done, it'll show up under the Status in the left bar of the admin.

It only shows valid BTV folders.

I also started on the icon thing, but I can't seem to find an icon for MPEG. I've got the wmv, that was easy.

Can someone post it?

I've also uploaded my changed. To apply them, simply backup your wwwroot directory, copy these .aspx files over the old ones, restart BTV (or kill the BTVWebServer.exe task).

I take no responsibility if things blow up, get deleted, or otherwise damaged.

Please check it out and let me know!

[vogelap]

AWESOME! Cannot wait to try it out...

Can you provide an exhaustive list of what you've changed?

[nanook105]

I get an error when I try to run Webadmin:


Server Error in '/' Application.

Compilation Error

Description: An error occurred during the compilation of a resource required to service this request. Please review the following specific error details and modify your source code appropriately.

Compiler Error Message: CS0103: The name '_currentSystemInfo' does not exist in the class or namespace 'ASP.WebAdminSidebar_ascx'

Source Error:

Line 174: <TR>Line 175: <TD COLSPAN="2" align="left"><BR>System Info<BR><BR>Line 176: <font size="3"><bold><%= _currentSystemInfo %><bold></font><BR> Line 177: </TD>Line 178: </TR>
Source File: wwwroot\controls\WebAdminSidebar.ascx Line: 176



Show Detailed Compiler Output:

[rkuo]

The free space thing is done, it'll show up under the Status in the left bar of the admin.

It only shows valid BTV folders.

I also started on the icon thing, but I can't seem to find an icon for MPEG. I've got the wmv, that was easy.

Can someone post it?

I've also uploaded my changed. To apply them, simply backup your wwwroot directory, copy these .aspx files over the old ones, restart BTV (or kill the BTVWebServer.exe task).

I take no responsibility if things blow up, get deleted, or otherwise damaged.

Please check it out and let me know!You are editing the source code (.cs files), right? You'll need to distribute the build output of your project as well.

[bradpvr]

You are editing the source code (.cs files), right? You'll need to distribute the build output of your project as well.

I am editing the .cs files. I copied what was in my wwwroot folder, that should be good right?

I did have to alter the Solution and add a reference to System.Management, to get the disk space stuff. How do I ensure people get that as well?

[bradpvr]

I get an error when I try to run Webadmin:


Server Error in '/' Application.

Compilation Error

Description: An error occurred during the compilation of a resource required to service this request. Please review the following specific error details and modify your source code appropriately.

Compiler Error Message: CS0103: The name '_currentSystemInfo' does not exist in the class or namespace 'ASP.WebAdminSidebar_ascx'

Source Error:

Line 174: <TR>Line 175: <TD COLSPAN="2" align="left"><BR>System Info<BR><BR>Line 176: <font size="3"><bold><%= _currentSystemInfo %><bold></font><BR> Line 177: </TD>Line 178: </TR>
Source File: wwwroot\controls\WebAdminSidebar.ascx Line: 176



Show Detailed Compiler Output:





Hmm, wierd...it works fine on my web admin. However, I mentioned in my note to rkuo, I had to add a new reference to the project, and that could be why you are getting that error.

[bradpvr]

AWESOME! Cannot wait to try it out...

Can you provide an exhaustive list of what you've changed?

Hey, everything I've changed has been mentioned in this thread, so just check it out from top to bottom.

Thanks!
Brad

Edit: Sorry, everything in this thread hasn't been completed, I mis-read it. nanook105 is working on an organized list of what's finished and what's not.

[nanook105]

I'll pull together a single post that has everything that has been requested.

[rkuo]

I am editing the .cs files. I copied what was in my wwwroot folder, that should be good right?

I did have to alter the Solution and add a reference to System.Management, to get the disk space stuff. How do I ensure people get that as well?I haven't gone and done this myself, but I believe at a minimum you'll have to distribute your new BTVWebAdmin.dll, which gets created in the bin folder. This is the compiled output of your source code. If you create and reference any new class libraries (which by the looks of things you haven't, so I don't think you need to worry about it) then you would need to distribute those too.

[vogelap]

I get an error when I try to run Webadmin:


Server Error in '/' Application.

Compilation Error

Description: An error occurred during the compilation of a resource required to service this request. Please review the following specific error details and modify your source code appropriately.

Compiler Error Message: CS0103: The name '_currentSystemInfo' does not exist in the class or namespace 'ASP.WebAdminSidebar_ascx'

Source Error:

Line 174: <TR>Line 175: <TD COLSPAN="2" align="left"><BR>System Info<BR><BR>Line 176: <font size="3"><bold><%= _currentSystemInfo %><bold></font><BR> Line 177: </TD>Line 178: </TR>
Source File: wwwroot\controls\WebAdminSidebar.ascx Line: 176


Show Detailed Compiler Output:


I get the same error...

[bradpvr]

Hmmm, I'm guessing it's because of the System.Management stuff.

I'll do as rkuo suggested and include the BTVWebAdmin.dll in my post here. Just add it to your wwwroot\bin directory after making a backup copy.

Restart webserver and try that

Good luck!

[nanook105]

Web admin comes up now:winkwink:


I'll poke around and see what I can find.

[bradpvr]

Web admin comes up now:winkwink:


I'll poke around and see what I can find.

Perfect, good to know. Whenever I add new references, I need to re-distribute the BTVWebAdmin.dll

It's all a good learning experience :)

[bradpvr]

Just FYI, I've completed the ability to delete multiple show squeeze jobs at once.

Right now I'm working on managing the logs (delete/save).

[rkuo]

Perfect, good to know. Whenever I add new references, I need to re-distribute the BTVWebAdmin.dll

It's all a good learning experience :)Just to clarify, you should redistribute the BTVWebAdmin.dll all the time. That's where any changes to the project are eventually getting compiled into.

[nanook105]

Get the following error when I select showsqueeze and edit from the show list in the serries/show screen. I don't get an error when I select options:



Server Error in '/' Application.

Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection. Parameter name: index

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection. Parameter name: index

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:

[ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.Parameter name: index] System.Collections.ArrayList.get_Item(Int32 index) +91 SnapStream.BeyondTV.WebAdmin.Library.ssOptionButto n_Command(Object sender, CommandEventArgs e) +110 System.Web.UI.WebControls.Button.OnCommand(Command EventArgs e) +84 System.Web.UI.WebControls.Button.System.Web.UI.IPo stBackEventHandler.RaisePostBackEvent(String eventArgument) +115 System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(IPostBackEve ntHandler sourceControl, String eventArgument) +18 System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(NameValueCol lection postData) +33 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +1292

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2032

[nanook105]

Got the follwoing eror when I tried to move a show:



Server Error in '/' Application.

Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:

[NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.] SnapStream.BeyondTV.WebAdmin.Library.MoveShows() +570 SnapStream.BeyondTV.WebAdmin.Library.LinkButtonMov eShows_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) +5 System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.OnClick(Event Args e) +83 System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.System.Web.UI .IPostBackEventHandler.RaisePostBackEvent(String eventArgument) +57 System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(IPostBackEve ntHandler sourceControl, String eventArgument) +18 System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(NameValueCol lection postData) +138 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +1292


Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2032

[bradpvr]

Got the follwoing eror when I tried to move a show:



Server Error in '/' Application.

Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:

[NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.] SnapStream.BeyondTV.WebAdmin.Library.MoveShows() +570 SnapStream.BeyondTV.WebAdmin.Library.LinkButtonMov eShows_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) +5 System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.OnClick(Event Args e) +83 System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.System.Web.UI .IPostBackEventHandler.RaisePostBackEvent(String eventArgument) +57 System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(IPostBackEve ntHandler sourceControl, String eventArgument) +18 System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(NameValueCol lection postData) +138 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +1292


Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2032

The moving isn't completed yet, some of the structure is there, but not finished. I'm still trying to figure out the threading stuff.

[bradpvr]

Just to clarify, you should redistribute the BTVWebAdmin.dll all the time. That's where any changes to the project are eventually getting compiled into.

Ok gotcha.

Do you mind if I PM you some questions about the Threading stuff? I'm trying to figure out how to move multiple shows but I'm stuck.

[nanook105]

Here is the list of requested changes for web admin. Green highlight is in progress. Yellow is a new request. No highlight means it hasn't started. I will update as bradpvr makes progress, and will add new requests as they come in.

PLEASE READ THIS LIST BEFORE MAKING REQUESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALREADY INCLUDED

[vogelap]

I installed it today (the DLL and everything) and the WebUI booted just fine. However, once I entered my password (my WebUI is password-protected), it didn't do anything when I clicked on any option in WebUI -- Library, Record, ShowSqueeze, etc.

I eventually gave up and reverted back to the original. I'll try it again when I've got more time (hopefully tomorrow)!

Thanks for your work on the WebUI. It is appreciated.

[bradpvr]

I installed it today (the DLL and everything) and the WebUI booted just fine. However, once I entered my password (my WebUI is password-protected), it didn't do anything when I clicked on any option in WebUI -- Library, Record, ShowSqueeze, etc.

I eventually gave up and reverted back to the original. I'll try it again when I've got more time (hopefully tomorrow)!

Thanks for your work on the WebUI. It is appreciated.

Hey, I think it's related to the performance of the Disk space monitor. We are going to be moving it to it's own page so that it does affect the overall performance.

I'm almost done the move and will post the changes hopefully today!

Thanks for your comments, much appreciated.

[bradpvr]

Here is the latest code.

This one includes a new System Status page to display available disk space and available RAM. It's under the About link.

Please see the document that nanook105 has prepared to see what's changed.

As always, backup and then implement.

Thanks!
Brad

[nanook105]

Thanks Brad - moving the system status really improved the speed for most of the pages, and will make it much easier to test. I updated the document to reflect the change.

[bradpvr]

Thanks Brad - moving the system status really improved the speed for most of the pages, and will make it much easier to test. I updated the document to reflect the change.


Excellent. Now if I could only figure out how to get the CPU Utilization then I'd be happy. I found some articles on it, but none of them seemed to work out.

Right now I'm working on deleting many Recordings from the Recording manager.

I have sooo many Record once items that I just wanna delete them all at once.

[vogelap]

Just installed the latest build, and it seems to be working well for me. The Disk Space monitor appears as a new menu item on the left, called System Status (not in About as you originally indicated). Is there any way to make the system status monitor NOT hit the floppy drive?

I like the changes in the Library pages. Being able to see the show description directly from the Options page is great.

Is it possible to make a configuration option for which view (All Shows, By Series, By Folder) should be the default? I thought I'd like By Series being the default more than I do. Maybe I just need to get used to it...

[vogelap]

Just noticed that the PLAY link is no longer on the front page of the Library for each show with this current build.

For example, I'd like to be able to play a file from the Library page's default view. As it is now, I have to click Library->(showname)->Options->Play to play a file. It should be, IMO, Library with a PLAY link next to the (showname). Or make the (showname) a link to play...

[bradpvr]

Just noticed that the PLAY link is no longer on the front page of the Library for each show with this current build.

For example, I'd like to be able to play a file from the Library page's default view. As it is now, I have to click Library->(showname)->Options->Play to play a file. It should be, IMO, Library with a PLAY link next to the (showname). Or make the (showname) a link to play...

Yeah, that's a good idea. I originally removed the Play link because I needed the space and such. I'll work on something to add it back in there in a more intuative way.

nanook105, can you add this to the list?

Thanks

Brad

[vogelap]

Noticed some additional weirdness on the By Series->(showname) screens...

* The Episode Description appears twice on the left side of the center window.

* The Keep Until I Delete It / Keep Until Space Is Needed links are broken.

* No PLAY link.

This screenshot shows what I mean...

[bradpvr]

Noticed some additional weirdness on the By Series->(showname) screens...

* The Episode Description appears twice on the left side of the center window.

* The Keep Until I Delete It / Keep Until Space Is Needed links are broken.

* No PLAY link.

This screenshot shows what I mean...

I'll look into it a little later today after I get back. Thanks for taking the time to test it!

Brad

[debennett2]

I REALLY appreciate the work being done on the Web admin! A LOT!!! Have you considered adding the ability to have multiple users accounts at all? Thanks again for all your efforts on this.

[rkuo]

Ok gotcha.

Do you mind if I PM you some questions about the Threading stuff? I'm trying to figure out how to move multiple shows but I'm stuck.No problem.

[nanook105]

I REALLY appreciate the work being done on the Web admin! A LOT!!! Have you considered adding the ability to have multiple users accounts at all? Thanks again for all your efforts on this.
Already on the to do list

[bradpvr]

I REALLY appreciate the work being done on the Web admin! A LOT!!! Have you considered adding the ability to have multiple users accounts at all? Thanks again for all your efforts on this.

Yeah I've been thinking about this one a bit. There's a couple of ways I could do it, and I'm looking for the most basic way of doing it (basically only providing read or read/write access). I'm not going to develop anything massive here.

I could store the user information in a few places, listed here by order of best place:

1) SS Database
2) File
3) Registry

What are everyone's thoughts? It's obviously going to have to be some encrypted type thing.

I'd also need to be able to manage the sessions as well, and store that some place.

Thanks!
Brad

[bradpvr]

Noticed some additional weirdness on the By Series->(showname) screens...

* The Episode Description appears twice on the left side of the center window.

* The Keep Until I Delete It / Keep Until Space Is Needed links are broken.

* No PLAY link.

This screenshot shows what I mean...

I've removed the episode dups. There isn't a play link anymore. Now, if you click on the episode title, it'll play it (if it's WMV).

The links seemed to work OK for me? What were the problems you were having?

I've attached the latest updates to this post. Give this a shot and let me know.

Thanks!
Brad

[ccarlin]

You can look into using WMI for getting information about the machine include Processor (actually just about anything). Here is a link I found for getting processor information using WMI: http://bmonday.com/code/mrtg/procload.vbs.txt

[bradpvr]

You can look into using WMI for getting information about the machine include Processor (actually just about anything). Here is a link I found for getting processor information using WMI: http://bmonday.com/code/mrtg/procload.vbs.txt

Very cool. I'm using WMI now to get the Disk space and RAM, so this works nicely.

Thanks for pointing it out!

Brad

[vogelap]

I've removed the episode dups. There isn't a play link anymore. Now, if you click on the episode title, it'll play it (if it's WMV).

The links seemed to work OK for me? What were the problems you were having?

I've attached the latest updates to this post. Give this a shot and let me know.
It seems to take a LOT longer for the Library screen to come up.

The LINKS (as you can see from the screenshot) are formatted incorrectly (seems to be RIGHT JUSTIFIED)... They're kinda ugly, to be honest. I just noticed that they ARE in fact links, but I don't like the way they look too much. Maybe slide them back where they were?

Can clicking the episode title play the item no matter if it is WMV or MPG? I'm talking about from the local machine...

Other that this, it seems to be working well for me. Did you have any thoughts about making the default Library view (All shows, By Series, By Folder) user-configurable?

[bradpvr]

It seems to take a LOT longer for the Library screen to come up.

The LINKS (as you can see from the screenshot) are formatted incorrectly (seems to be RIGHT JUSTIFIED)... They're kinda ugly, to be honest. I just noticed that they ARE in fact links, but I don't like the way they look too much. Maybe slide them back where they were?

Can clicking the episode title play the item no matter if it is WMV or MPG? I'm talking about from the local machine...

Other that this, it seems to be working well for me. Did you have any thoughts about making the default Library view (All shows, By Series, By Folder) user-configurable?

Hi vogelap,

The library list I think is coming up slower, because it has to prepare the Move To folder (which is hidden 'cause I'm not done the multi-move yet).

They do look ugly in your screen shot. I'm going to be, as another task, going through the look and feel of the web admin to spice it up a knotch and make it more intuative.

Hmm, if I click on a link for an MPG, my browser will do what? Play it, save it? I'm not sure, never tried it. I can hook it up and you can let me know.

Ya, I did think about it. I'm kind of un-easy as to how I should store these user configs. Normally I'd store them in a DB, but I don't think I have that kind of access.

I'm going to ask rkuo's opinion on this.

Thanks for your input!

Brad

[vogelap]

Hi vogelap,Call me Drew!

The library list I think is coming up slower, because it has to prepare the Move To folder (which is hidden 'cause I'm not done the multi-move yet).I understand. Does that mean that the Library view will come up more quickly once you've got the multi-move done? I hope so; multi-move isn't something I'll use often, but the Library page gets used a LOT. Making that fast seems like a great idea.

They do look ugly in your screen shot. I'm going to be, as another task, going through the look and feel of the web admin to spice it up a knotch and make it more intuative.Sweet!

Hmm, if I click on a link for an MPG, my browser will do what? Play it, save it? I'm not sure, never tried it. I can hook it up and you can let me know.hehe. I'll try it now... An MPG file shows up locally as a link (file:///D:/Shows/Hudson%20Hawk-2005-01-01-0.mpg) and it opens my media player. So, it WORKS! Don't change anything! :)

Ya, I did think about it. I'm kind of un-easy as to how I should store these user configs. Normally I'd store them in a DB, but I don't think I have that kind of access.

I'm going to ask rkuo's opinion on this.If it cannot be done, that's okay with me. I just thought I'd like having BY SERIES as the default more than I do; I'm going to try it for a while and see if I get used to it...

Thanks for all your work on the WebUI. I've been a WebUI user since using BTV (way back when it was PVS/PVR), and been waiting (somewhat) patiently for them to make changes/improvements to it. I'm glad you picked up the ball.

[bradpvr]

Hey,

I've removed the mutli-move stuff from the Library for now until I finish it (it will speed it up some).

I've also fixed some of the edit buttons etc.

The CPU % is now in the system status page.

I added the MPG link, not sure how that's going to work, let me know.

Have fun,

Thanks,
Brad

[bradpvr]

Call me Drew!

Drew it is!


I understand. Does that mean that the Library view will come up more quickly once you've got the multi-move done? I hope so; multi-move isn't something I'll use often, but the Library page gets used a LOT. Making that fast seems like a great idea.


No, it won't be slower once it's done. At least not noticeably.


hehe. I'll try it now... An MPG file shows up locally as a link (file:///D:/Shows/Hudson%20Hawk-2005-01-01-0.mpg) and it opens my media player. So, it WORKS! Don't change anything! :)

Excellent!


Thanks for all your work on the WebUI. I've been a WebUI user since using BTV (way back when it was PVS/PVR), and been waiting (somewhat) patiently for them to make changes/improvements to it. I'm glad you picked up the ball.

Thanks, it's something fun and it's also something that's obviously helping other people as well.

Plus I like the attention :clapping:

Thanks :)
Brad

[vogelap]

Well, you might not like the attention any more... I just installed today's R2 and will test it in a moment, but in the meantime, here's a list I culled from all my (many) bug reports on the WebUI over the time I've been a beta-tester. Some of these are certainly done by now, but some are not. Some may not be do-able... At any rate, here's the list. Let me know of questions!

* There should be a configurartion option that makes SS automatically EXPAND all "ADVANCED INFORMATION" tags in WebUI.

* Add a feature that displays an icon in FSGUI _AND_ WebUI indicating if a show has been SmartChaptered.

* BTV users should be able to view/delete/download log files from the WebUI.

* There needs to be a BACK button from the WebUI: BEYOND TV MANAGEMENT page.

* Add "RESTART BTV" and "RESTART COMPUTER" buttons to the WebUI: BEYOND TV MANAGEMENT page.

* In WebUI: Library->By Folder, the "By Folder" link should function as a "Back" button to allow the user to go back to the top level of folders.

* User-selectable sorting of shows by name, air date, size, directory (on All Shows viewtype), and even type (WMV or MPEG2) should be added to each viewtype.

* Personally, I am less interested in the dates (and especially times) of a show than the DURATION of a show. I'd prefer to have the date recorded along with the DURATION of a show displayed in the WebUI: Library. I'd suggest getting rid of: "1/1/2000 1:00:00 AM-1/1/2000 1:00:00 AM" and replace it with "1/1/2000, 30 minutes".

* Display file sizes on (at least) WebUI: Library->All Shows & By Series.

* Display an icon for WMV or MPEG2 on all viewtypes in WebUI: Library. Make this icon clickable to launch the player (like it is in 3.44).

* Add management options (archive, download, print, delete) to the LOG viewer in WebUI. Also add the ability to view/manage ANY log (by day) present in the Logs directory. Please make logfiles MULTI-SELECTABLE.

* I'm not sure if it is already this way or not, but please make it so the security password can be auto-populated by IE when WebUI: Settings->Advanced Settings->Security is ENABLED. The WebUI's security feature is not enabled in a way that allows IE to auto-populate the password. This means that to access the WebUI, you have to use the keyboard. In previous versions, you could double-click the USERNAME field, select the username from the drop-down list and the password would automagically populate. Then you click the LOGIN button, all performed with the mouse; no need for the keyboard. This no longer works in the current beta. This will severely limit the WAF of this beta.

* Clicking WebUI: Setup Recordings->(showname)->Options should display the "Edit a scheduled recording" panel for the show; no need to make the user click the "Edit" button. It's an extra click that isn't needed. Add the DELETE button to the bottom of the "Edit a scheduled recording" panel.

* Change the behavior of WebUI: Recording Manager -> (show name) -> Tasks -> Edit -> Advanced Information -> ShowSqueeze -> Target Video Folder. Instead of forcing the user to check the box to override default and then select the target video folder from the drop-down list, make it behave like WebUI: Watch -> (show name) -> Tasks -> ShowSqueeze -> Target Video Folder, where it's a drop-down list from which the user selects the target video folder.

* The WebUI extends off the right side of an 800x600 screen. It needs to become aware of the size of the screen and adjust so that users do not have to scroll to see the whole thing.

* All this text (and other text in the same position on other screens) is hard to read on an 800x600 screen displayed on a TV:
All shows By Series By Folder

Delete Selected Shows
Keep Selected Shows Until I Delete Them
Keep Selected Shows Until Space Is Needed

* Sort alphabetically by FOLDER NAME in WebUI:Library->View By Folder

* In WebUI, please make the notification (Currently Recording...) that a recording is happening RED again. It was red in previous versions, and I've grown quite accustomed to the RED indicating that a recording is in progress.

* In WebUI:Recording Manager, add the ability to view the list sorted by SHOW NAME or RECORDING TYPE (Once, Always, First Run, etc).

* In the WebUI: About page, make the version number larger so it is readable on an 800x600 TV screen. Add a cool BTV logo to that page as well.

* In WebUI, the tables usually alternate colors between light & dark blue. However, in many spots, the alternating colors are messed up. For example, WebUI: Library->->Options->ShowSqueeze...

* With this release, you've made it impossible to create an IE FAVORITE (like http://pvr:8129/settings.cgi?mode=downloadremoterecordings) to download remote recordings. Under 3.4.4, this was possible (and, for me, desirable). Please create a way for us to make an IE FAVORITE for downloading Remote Recordings.

* Display an icon for WMV or MPEG2 on all viewtypes in WebUI: Library. Make this icon clickable to launch the player (like it is in 3.4.4).

* In WebUI:Library->All Shows/By Series/By Folder, make BY SERIES and BY FOLDER as links to themselves so the user can go UP or BACK.

For example, if I go to WebUI:Library->By Series->DEAD LIKE ME and then want to go BACK, I have to click Library->By Series. Make it so BY SERIES at the top of the DEAD LIKE ME display is an equivilent link. Saves a step.

Do the same with BY FOLDER.

* To increase the functionality of WebUI: Library->->Options, I suggest moving the following items to the page that's displayed when a user clicks WebUI: Library->->Options. This is also my suggested ORDER for the items:

* Title
* Length
* Series Description (not editable from this view -- click EDIT for that)
* Episode Description (not editable from this view -- click EDIT for that)
* Path
* Folder / Filename
* Size / Bitrate
* Options (as it is now, including PLAY, DOWNLOAD, SHOWSQUEEZE, SMARTCHAPTERS, EDIT, MOVE, and DELETE)

Doing it this way puts the show information 'closer' to the user, saving them mouseclicks if they want to see the description or running time, etc.

[bradpvr]

Looks like a pretty good list!

I will look over them in the morning, but it I'm liking what I'm seeing.

nanook105 is maintaining a list of what we are changing. If possible, can you please co-ordinate with him with what you've got? He's doing a good job of keeping the list up to date, so I'd like to stick with one list.

Thanks!
Brad

[bradpvr]

Hey,

I've completed the following (can't sleep he he):

* Personally, I am less interested in the dates (and especially times) of a show than the DURATION of a show. I'd prefer to have the date recorded along with the DURATION of a show displayed in the WebUI: Library. I'd suggest getting rid of: "1/1/2000 1:00:00 AM-1/1/2000 1:00:00 AM" and replace it with "1/1/2000, 30 minutes".

* Add a feature that displays an icon in FSGUI _AND_ WebUI indicating if a show has been SmartChaptered.

This is sort of done. In the Options page, it'll disable the button if a show is already smart chaptered. The problem with adding this to the library list is that it does a File.Exists to find the .chapters.xml file as there is no built in way to find out if it's been chaptered. This will more then likely be a large performance hit, so I won't add it in yet.

* Add "RESTART BTV" and "RESTART COMPUTER" buttons to the WebUI: BEYOND TV MANAGEMENT page.

There already is a shutdown/startup so I'll leave it as is. I've added in a restart Computer. I'll be testing it once this show is over :)

[Hishn]

Hello there Everyone.

The changes for the WebUI are just wonderful.

I have found one small sort of bug. When I hit the "System Status" hotspot on the web page, it times out everytime. My system is pretty beefy with a lot of disk space on it, so that might be causing it. But if someone wants to email me for what I need to look at to see why it is not coming up, that would be great.

I am glad the default view is no longer EVERYTHING. But I would request that the default view be setable. I rename all my shows after I show squeeze them and remove the commercials. So all the per file info is destroyed in that process. So I know which files are which by being able to see which folders they are in more then anything else. For the Series View, every file looks like it own series.

Also, and old complaint, but for any page with displays columns, can we please have the Excel style click mark so I can choose which column I want everything sorted on and whether sorted in ascending or descending order? Again this is because of how I name my files and right now the last show in the series is at the top if my show list.

As a side bar, does any know a bulk-tagging program for WMV files? As I said, every file has lost its meta-data through transcoding and commerical removal. And putting in show data one file at a time for ~1400 television episodes is more of a project then I am want to handle.

Thanks to everyone and to you especially Brad. Keep up the good hacking.

[nanook105]

I have found one small sort of bug. When I hit the "System Status" hotspot on the web page, it times out everytime. My system is pretty beefy with a lot of disk space on it, so that might be causing it. But if someone wants to email me for what I need to look at to see why it is not coming up, that would be great.
It works, you just have to wait a little longer


I am glad the default view is no longer EVERYTHING. But I would request that the default view be setable. I rename all my shows after I show squeeze them and remove the commercials. So all the per file info is destroyed in that process. So I know which files are which by being able to see which folders they are in more then anything else. For the Series View, every file looks like it own series.
Already requested


Also, and old complaint, but for any page with displays columns, can we please have the Excel style click mark so I can choose which column I want everything sorted on and whether sorted in ascending or descending order? Again this is because of how I name my files and right now the last show in the series is at the top if my show list.
Already Requested


As a side bar, does any know a bulk-tagging program for WMV files? As I said, every file has lost its meta-data through transcoding and commerical removal. And putting in show data one file at a time for ~1400 television episodes is more of a project then I am want to handle.
Already Requested - This would be a great independent project for someone looking to give Brad a hand


Thanks to everyone and to you especially Brad. Keep up the good hacking.

[nanook105]

Updated list for Drew's requests (post #44)

Drew,

Some of your requests were already in the list, and I had questions on some of the others. Make sure that you review the list to make sure that I recorded your requests accurately:

* Add a feature that displays an icon in FSGUI _AND_ WebUI indicating if a show has been SmartChaptered.


Added WebUI request - FSI requests not included here.:wink:


* BTV users should be able to view/delete/download log files from the WebUI.

Already Requested



* There needs to be a BACK button from the WebUI: BEYOND TV MANAGEMENT page.

Or just include the same left panel as the rest of the webui screens ?



* User-selectable sorting of shows by name, air date, size, directory (on All Shows viewtype), and even type (WMV or MPEG2) should be added to each viewtype.

Already Requested



* Display an icon for WMV or MPEG2 on all viewtypes in WebUI: Library. Make this icon clickable to launch the player (like it is in 3.44).

Already Requested



* Add management options (archive, download, print, delete) to the LOG viewer in WebUI. Also add the ability to view/manage ANY log (by day) present in the Logs directory. Please make logfiles MULTI-SELECTABLE.

Already Requested – updated request for minor differences



* Clicking WebUI: Setup Recordings->(showname)->Options should display the "Edit a scheduled recording" panel for the show; no need to make the user click the "Edit" button. It's an extra click that isn't needed. Add the DELETE button to the bottom of the "Edit a scheduled recording" panel.



I’m not sure I get this. Are you asking that this screen go straight into a panel to edit details instead of a list of the recordings ? How would you facilitate deleting multiple recordings ?



* Change the behavior of WebUI: Recording Manager -> (show name) -> Tasks -> Edit -> Advanced Information -> ShowSqueeze -> Target Video Folder. Instead of forcing the user to check the box to override default and then select the target video folder from the drop-down list, make it behave like WebUI: Watch -> (show name) -> Tasks -> ShowSqueeze -> Target Video Folder, where it's a drop-down list from which the user selects the target video folder.

I’m lost on this one too. When I select Recording Manager, it shows a list of shows. When I click on Edit, I just get an Edit Scheduled Recording panel, not Advanced settings. Are you just asking to just include the target store and quality drop down lists when the page is initially loaded ?



* Sort alphabetically by FOLDER NAME in WebUI:Library->View By Folder

Already Requested (sort by any Column)



* In WebUI:Recording Manager, add the ability to view the list sorted by SHOW NAME or RECORDING TYPE (Once, Always, First Run, etc).

Already Requested



* Display an icon for WMV or MPEG2 on all viewtypes in WebUI: Library. Make this icon clickable to launch the player (like it is in 3.4.4).

Dupe Request in your list and Already Requested

[vogelap]

Updated list for Drew's requests (post #44)

Some of your requests were already in the list, and I had questions on some of the others. Make sure that you review the list to make sure that I recorded your requests accurately:Thanks for reviewing these requests and adding them to your list. I'll check the list in a moment and let you know my comments.

* Add a feature that displays an icon in FSGUI _AND_ WebUI indicating if a show has been SmartChaptered.


Added WebUI request - FSI requests not included here.:wink:

Thanks! :wow:
* There needs to be a BACK button from the WebUI: BEYOND TV MANAGEMENT page.

Or just include the same left panel as the rest of the webui screens ?
The same left panel would be more in keeping with the overall design. I say add the left panel!


* Add management options (archive, download, print, delete) to the LOG viewer in WebUI. Also add the ability to view/manage ANY log (by day) present in the Logs directory. Please make logfiles MULTI-SELECTABLE.

Already Requested – updated request for minor differences

Thanks.

* Clicking WebUI: Setup Recordings->(showname)->Options should display the "Edit a scheduled recording" panel for the show; no need to make the user click the "Edit" button. It's an extra click that isn't needed. Add the DELETE button to the bottom of the "Edit a scheduled recording" panel.

I’m not sure I get this. Are you asking that this screen go straight into a panel to edit details instead of a list of the recordings ? How would you facilitate deleting multiple recordings ?
To be honest, I'm not sure I get this either! I was trying to click on the WebUI: Setup Recordings->(showname) clickpath, but there is no OPTIONS panel (at least, not under the replacement WebUI components you're working on). I guess this one has been addressed already. Please ignore!

* Change the behavior of WebUI: Recording Manager -> (show name) -> Tasks -> Edit -> Advanced Information -> ShowSqueeze -> Target Video Folder. Instead of forcing the user to check the box to override default and then select the target video folder from the drop-down list, make it behave like WebUI: Watch -> (show name) -> Tasks -> ShowSqueeze -> Target Video Folder, where it's a drop-down list from which the user selects the target video folder.

I’m lost on this one too. When I select Recording Manager, it shows a list of shows. When I click on Edit, I just get an Edit Scheduled Recording panel, not Advanced settings. Are you just asking to just include the target store and quality drop down lists when the page is initially loaded ?This seems to be an old request and has probably been addressed already... Please ignore!

[debennett2]

Silly requests,
Can you use white text (and preferably a smidge bigger) for the "about", "system status", "log" and "BTV Management" pages? Also, what do you think of making the "BTV Management" screen a sized popup...if not, could you center the title and buttons?

How difficult would it be to sized incorporate channel logos in the "What's up" section? What about small icons for the "tasks" section (any artists about?)?

Something that has always bothered me is trying to use the program guide to search for recordings (in the webui of course)...or even just browsing the guide to scedule recordings. Is there anyway to make this a little more streamlined so that one does not have to sign into .NET everytime? Maybe once the users are configured, the session can remember whoever logged in and use that in the program guide automagically? (meaning that the username for authentication for the webui would need to be an email address though). I don;t know, I just know scheduling and searching for shows in the the webui is a little bit of a pain right now. I'd like to be able to let my girlfriend use it and her not get frustrated and give up on it. Thanks!!!!

[bradpvr]

Silly requests,
Can you use white text (and preferably a smidge bigger) for the "about", "system status", "log" and "BTV Management" pages? Also, what do you think of making the "BTV Management" screen a sized popup...if not, could you center the title and buttons?


Sounds good. I'll get nanook105 to put this on the list under general GUI enhancements.


How difficult would it be to sized incorporate channel logos in the "What's up" section? What about small icons for the "tasks" section (any artists about?)?


Do the logos exist anywhere?


Something that has always bothered me is trying to use the program guide to search for recordings (in the webui of course)...or even just browsing the guide to scedule recordings. Is there anyway to make this a little more streamlined so that one does not have to sign into .NET everytime? Maybe once the users are configured, the session can remember whoever logged in and use that in the program guide automagically? (meaning that the username for authentication for the webui would need to be an email address though). I don;t know, I just know scheduling and searching for shows in the the webui is a little bit of a pain right now. I'd like to be able to let my girlfriend use it and her not get frustrated and give up on it. Thanks!!!!

I agree, I think it's silly, I always just browse to snapstream.net because I know I'll have to log in.

To do any session mgmt between WebAdmin and SS.net that would have to involve someone from SS, that's a little beyond the scope here.

Thanks!

Brad

[bradpvr]

This one is for everyone that wanted to setup their own default Library list view.

You now have the option of setting the Library to default to:

By Series
By Folder
All Shows

You can set this by going to Settings -> Web Administration Settings.

I also changed the library listing to show the Date and Duration of a show as I agree that showing the start date/time and end date/time didn't make sense.

I've begun working on the multi-user stuff as I got my response back from rkuo on his advice as to how to implement it.

Remember, backup then install. I live by the backup song:
http://www.orafaq.com/faqfun.htm#YESTERDAY

Enjoy!

Brad

[nanook105]

Updated request list (post 44) for debennett2 requests and today's release.

[vogelap]

This one is for everyone that wanted to setup their own default Library list view.

You now have the option of setting the Library to default to:

By Series
By Folder
All Shows

You can set this by going to Settings -> Web Administration Settings.That's AWESOME! Thanks!

I also changed the library listing to show the Date and Duration of a show as I agree that showing the start date/time and end date/time didn't make sense.Can you make the date format either a> configurable or b> mm/dd/yyyy?

Is there an easy way to convert the duration display to hours & minutes (122 minutes displays as 2h2m) or something?

Also, and this is nitpicky... Put a space between the date and the minutes (2004/12/25,122 minutes would become 2004/12/25, 122 minutes).

Thanks. You're making tremendous progress, and it is greatly appreciated.

[bradpvr]

That's AWESOME! Thanks!

Can you make the date format either a> configurable or b> mm/dd/yyyy?

Is there an easy way to convert the duration display to hours & minutes (122 minutes displays as 2h2m) or something?

Also, and this is nitpicky... Put a space between the date and the minutes (2004/12/25,122 minutes would become 2004/12/25, 122 minutes).

Thanks. You're making tremendous progress, and it is greatly appreciated.

Ok, I'll change the date format. I'll also put in the hour thing and the space :)

Thanks for your comments. The progress might slow down some now, as I'm off vacation and back to my real work, but I will still be plugging away.

I've started work on the user-accounts. My thoughts are to keep it pretty simple.

Add users with either read or write access.

Anyone have any thoughts on whether that's too simple?

Thanks,
Brad

[vogelap]

Ok, I'll change the date format. I'll also put in the hour thing and the space :)Thanks! I'm a stickler for formatting. :)

Thanks for your comments. The progress might slow down some now, as I'm off vacation and back to my real work, but I will still be plugging away.Hey, that's fine with me. In the very short time you've been playing with the WebUI, you've made changes that I'd been requesting for, oh... a year or more in some cases. I can be patient! :)

I've started work on the user-accounts. My thoughts are to keep it pretty simple. Add users with either read or write access.

Anyone have any thoughts on whether that's too simple?Someone else should comment on this since I don't use user accounts. Assuming it becomes so that this issue (below) I raised is fixed, I'm happy:

The WebUI's security feature is not enabled in a way that allows IE to auto-populate the password. This means that to access the WebUI, you have to use the keyboard. In previous versions, you could double-click the USERNAME field, use the mouse to select the username from the drop-down list and the password would automagically populate. Then you click the LOGIN button, all performed with the mouse; no need for the keyboard. This no longer works in the current WebUI.

Thanks!

[ccarlin]

I would say for security you would probably want to allow access to individual folders (or deny access) base on a user or user type. There used to be a private flag or something by folder that would designate whether or not a viewing user would see that folder.

[bradpvr]

I would say for security you would probably want to allow access to individual folders (or deny access) base on a user or user type. There used to be a private flag or something by folder that would designate whether or not a viewing user would see that folder.

That's a good idea, but the folder would be visible by everyone in the FSUI anyways, so I'm not really sure that would hold any water?

[miniGranis]

Weheee - havent seen this before and I made a test install of 3.5 on my lab-PC and thought that the WebUI was totaly messed up, hence no 3.5 install for me.

This reworked WebUI is great stuff, it looks like 3.5 will be usefull after all - keep up the good work :dude:

Havent read all the post so I might ask for something that has been up already, anyway:

Is it possible to make the "click'able" text in the upper left & right corner in Library and ShowSqueeze view bigger and a bit more clear ?
Also making font and size the same for ShowSqueeze and Library would clean things up.

The the attached links for images, issue areas marked in red:

http://minigranis.no-ip.com/tmp/showSqueeze-webui-mod35.jpg
http://minigranis.no-ip.com/tmp/library-webui-mod35.jpg

Brg
Emil

[bradpvr]

Weheee - havent seen this before and I made a test install of 3.5 on my lab-PC and thought that the WebUI was totaly messed up, hence no 3.5 install for me.

This reworked WebUI is great stuff, it looks like 3.5 will be usefull after all - keep up the good work :dude:

Havent read all the post so I might ask for something that has been up already, anyway:

Is it possible to make the "click'able" text in the upper left & right corner in Library and ShowSqueeze view bigger and a bit more clear ?
Also making font and size the same for ShowSqueeze and Library would clean things up.

The the attached links for images, issue areas marked in red:

http://minigranis.no-ip.com/tmp/showSqueeze-webui-mod35.jpg
http://minigranis.no-ip.com/tmp/library-webui-mod35.jpg

Brg
Emil

Yeah, I plan on going through the whole GUI to make it look more plesant and be more intuitive.

I'll be doing this as a seperate task probably near the end of this whole thing.

Right now I'm looking to do functionality enhancements, to make life easier. Later I will make life 'prettier'

Thanks!
Brad

[debennett2]

That's a good idea, but the folder would be visible by everyone in the FSUI anyways, so I'm not really sure that would hold any water?


I use the webUI exclusively on the road or at work. It is linked to from my personal website. I just want to make sure that a user needs to authenticate to get access to the webUI but can have multiple account names as not to confuse multiple family members and friends. If there was a way to only allow certain accounts access to setting up recordings, changing any settings, and/or deleting that would be icing on the cake.....that's how it use to work.

[bradpvr]

I use the webUI exclusively on the road or at work. It is linked to from my personal website. I just want to make sure that a user needs to authenticate to get access to the webUI but can have multiple account names as not to confuse multiple family members and friends. If there was a way to only allow certain accounts access to setting up recordings, changing any settings, and/or deleting that would be icing on the cake.....that's how it use to work.

This is probably pushing it, but you don't have any screen shots of the web admin (authority) from pre 3.5 eh?

I'm starting to understand why SS left the web admin basic. There's quite a bit of work involved in making it a large scale system.

Thanks!
Brad

[debennett2]

This is probably pushing it, but you don't have any screen shots of the web admin (authority) from pre 3.5 eh?

No, sorry....

There were basically two types of accounts if memory serves...

1) An Admin-type account (does everything obviously)

2) A View Only account that could only see what was going on and watch streams.

[bradpvr]

No, sorry....

There were basically two types of accounts if memory serves...

1) An Admin-type account (does everything obviously)

2) A View Only account that could only see what was going on and watch streams.

Ok cool. That makes it nice and easy then :) I will do this.

[debennett2]

Actually, I think the View Only account could also setup recordings....not sure if that throws a wrench in things or not. It allows someone (say my girlfriend in this case) to schedule a recording without hosing up the recording settings, deleting folders, etc. Know what I mean? If not, no bog deal....still cool with me.

[bradpvr]

Actually, I think the View Only account could also setup recordings....not sure if that throws a wrench in things or not. It allows someone (say my girlfriend in this case) to schedule a recording without hosing up the recording settings, deleting folders, etc. Know what I mean? If not, no bog deal....still cool with me.

Nah. I haven't gotten that far yet. Right now I'm working on the creation/editing/deletion of the user accounts. Almost have the XML file down pat.

Getting there, slowly but surely.

[debennett2]

Thanks!!!

[ccarlin]

The other part of that is what I mentioned earlier, that each individual folder had the option to be marked as private and would only show up for users that were of the Admin type.

[bradpvr]

The other part of that is what I mentioned earlier, that each individual folder had the option to be marked as private and would only show up for users that were of the Admin type.

Back to my original question though, wouldn't the user still be able view the video in the FSUI? So I'm not sure what service that would provide?

I'm just trying to figure out why, to make sure I do things right.

Thanks!
Brad

[ccarlin]

A couple of points:

1. There are a lot of things you can do in the web interface that can't be done in the FSUI.
2. I'm just pointing out what it used to do.
3. Since the Web Interface can be open to a lot more users then people in your house you may want to restrict access to something.
4. You may just be embarassed that you have 26 recording of the Wiggles and don't want anyone outside your home to know:)

[bradpvr]

A couple of points:

1. There are a lot of things you can do in the web interface that can't be done in the FSUI.
2. I'm just pointing out what it used to do.
3. Since the Web Interface can be open to a lot more users then people in your house you may want to restrict access to something.
4. You may just be embarassed that you have 26 recording of the Wiggles and don't want anyone outside your home to know:)

I understand your Point #4. I swear, it's the boy that watches Blue's Clue's.

Point taken.

[vogelap]

My dogs (http://www.drewvogel.com/gallery/Critters/BDdraw003) like to watch Blue's Clues. No kidding. They cannot ask to watch it, of course, but if it's on, they both stare at the screen.

Seriously.

[debennett2]

Would it be possible to have 2 different WebUI's? I'd love to see one that would fit on my PDA 480x640 landscaped. That would make control awesome.

Sorry if this is a nooish question but I have my Axim X30 on the way pretty soon and wanted to get a jump on things. Thanks!

[bradpvr]

Would it be possible to have 2 different WebUI's? I'd love to see one that would fit on my PDA 480x640 landscaped. That would make control awesome.

Sorry if this is a nooish question but I have my Axim X30 on the way pretty soon and wanted to get a jump on things. Thanks!

Actually I was thinking the same thing waaayyyy back. I have an iPaq for work and would love to be able to use it at home for this purpose espcially.

A trimmed down webui for PDA's would be very usefull.

I'll keep it in mind for sure.

Great idea!

Brad

[debennett2]

I'll keep it in mind for sure.

Great minds think alike! I'm glad there are more of us than there are not.....at least here. :tongue:

[nanook105]

I updated the consolidated requirements for posts 78 - 99.

I created a separate section for Web Admin. I did some consolidation on some of the Web Admin requests, so if you submitted requirements, you need to check to make sure that I didn't miss anything

Decided not to include any specific requirements related to folder privacy and Blues Clues. Sometimes, you just have to take a stand :winkwink:

[bradpvr]

I updated the consolidated requirements for posts 78 - 99.

I created a separate section for Web Admin. I did some consolidation on some of the Web Admin requests, so if you submitted requirements, you need to check to make sure that I didn't miss anything

Decided not to include any specific requirements related to folder privacy and Blues Clues. Sometimes, you just have to take a stand :winkwink:

Ha ha.

Looks good, a couple of updates though, and we need to have a colour for completed requests:

The defaulting the library is completed
Library shows episode title
Removed the many clicks to show squeeze
Same thing for edit
The ability to restart the computer
The disk space, ram and CPU % is completed

The user accounts stuff is now in progress (I actually have it saving the user information now, just have to do the login and disabling etc).

Thanks keep up that document...it defenitly helps me keep track of where we are and we are going!

Brad

[vogelap]

I don't know if this idea could be implemented or not, but here it is...

The scenario: You've scheduled a bunch of recordings using WebUI & SS.net. You go to Settings->SnapStream.Net Settings->Download Remote Recordings.

Once the recordings are successfully downloaded, a report page comes up showing the name, date, time, and channel of the show(s) to be recorded. It also provides a DELETE button (in case you want to delete the show) and an OPTION button. Click it and the show's OPTION pane opens in a new window so you can adjust the settings if you wish.

This way, you can determine exactly what shows are being downloaded and can manage them easily.

[bradpvr]

I don't know if this idea could be implemented or not, but here it is...

The scenario: You've scheduled a bunch of recordings using WebUI & SS.net. You go to Settings->SnapStream.Net Settings->Download Remote Recordings.

Once the recordings are successfully downloaded, a report page comes up showing the name, date, time, and channel of the show(s) to be recorded. It also provides a DELETE button (in case you want to delete the show) and an OPTION button. Click it and the show's OPTION pane opens in a new window so you can adjust the settings if you wish.

This way, you can determine exactly what shows are being downloaded and can manage them easily.

Anything is possible, it's just whether or not it'll be done.

Sounds like a good idea. I like to double check as well.

nanook105 can you add this to the list? Thanks!

Brad

[vogelap]

Found a little bug in the new WebUI... If you check any number of ShowSqueeze logs in ShowSqueeze and click "Delete Selected" to delete the log entries, the screen refreshes too quickly -- the shows still show up.

Clicking WebUI: ShowSqueeze a second time refreshes the screen and the log entries are gone, as expected.

[debennett2]

Just hoping to keep this thread at the top! Hope to see more soon!

[bradpvr]

Just hoping to keep this thread at the top! Hope to see more soon!

Hey, we will soon. I've been out of town the past week, so hopefully I can finish up the user stuff once I get back.

I've completed the maintenance for it, that was the easy part. Now I just have to apply the logic to everywhere in the web admin.

Thanks!

Brad

[IGx89]

Would anyone be interested in my coding an Upcoming Movies page for the Web Admin? I've made a C# program that does it, but integrating it into the Web Admin seems like the preferred way to do it. The main problem with that is conflicts with other Web Admin mods, though. But now, with a big main mod being worked on, maybe I could integrate my changes into this mod? What do you think, bradpvr? Too bad there isn't a CVS system for the web admin source code, so many people could submit various changes and have them all integrate into one mod :(.

[bradpvr]

Would anyone be interested in my coding an Upcoming Movies page for the Web Admin? I've made a C# program that does it, but integrating it into the Web Admin seems like the preferred way to do it. The main problem with that is conflicts with other Web Admin mods, though. But now, with a big main mod being worked on, maybe I could integrate my changes into this mod? What do you think, bradpvr? Too bad there isn't a CVS system for the web admin source code, so many people could submit various changes and have them all integrate into one mod :(.

Hey,

Yeah, I agree we should defenitly integrate it, but the question is 'how'.

Do you know what files you would need to change/add to integrate this? If you are just adding a file and only modifying the menu to link to that file, then the integration would be very simple.

Let me know!

Thanks
Brad

[IGx89]

Yeah, I think that's how it'd work. Once I finish converting my C# app to work as a web admin page, I'll send it to you to integrate into your mod.

[bpsmicro]

Apologies for the stupid question, but the last build I can find here is from Jan 1st. Is there a later build available to play with that perhaps I've missed somewhere along the line?

I've got one enhancement request I want to log, but I want to test against the latest build before doing so. :-)

Brad.

[bradpvr]

Apologies for the stupid question, but the last build I can find here is from Jan 1st. Is there a later build available to play with that perhaps I've missed somewhere along the line?

I've got one enhancement request I want to log, but I want to test against the latest build before doing so. :-)

Brad.

Hey,

The latest build is from the 2nd of Jan. Unfortunatly I've been out of town and busy etc to give it some more time.

Here's the link to the latest build:

http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/showpost.php?p=126250&postcount=76

Let us know!

[bpsmicro]

Thanks. Turns out that's the one I have.

So here's my enhancement request. I looked through the list and I *think* what I'm about to document is kinda covered, but just in case...

My default recording folder is C:\Recordings on my BTV machine. When I open WebAdmin on another machine on my LAN (I'm only interested in LAN access right now), and look in the recordings lists, the individual shows will have a link such as "file:///C:/recordings/program_name.mpg". Obviously, that link won't work on anything but the actual BTV machine.

Assuming I have a share set up (let's say "\\video\recordings"), what I'd like is some way for the link to come up as "file://///video/recordings/program_name.mpg". I tried that link manually, and it does work, even on the BTV machine (which is smart enough to recognize a link back to itself).

So what I need is a mapping to say "replace 'C:/recordings' with '//video/recordings').

What I am going to try, which may just magically work, is go into the settings and set my default record folder to "\\video\recordings". I believe WinXP is smart enough to know that's a local "share" and not try to save the files across the LAN back to itself.

Oddly, I could have sworn 3.4's WebAdmin made LAN-aware URLS for programs, but I have no intention of downgrading to find out. :-)

Brad.

[bradpvr]

Hey,

Yeah, I know I saw something like this when I was doing some dev, but, to be honest with you, I was too lazy to look into it further.

I will look into this soon, and let you know what I can find out.

Thanks!
Brad

[bradpvr]

Just FYI, I've gotten pretty far with the multi user addition in the web admin.

I'm now able to login (and not login), as well as create/maintain authority to different users.

Now I'm just going through the different areas and applying the authority checks and then everything should be good to go.

Hopefully I will have something for you guys next week!

Thanks!
Brad

[debennett2]

Just FYI, I've gotten pretty far with the multi user addition in the web admin.

I'm now able to login (and not login), as well as create/maintain authority to different users.

Now I'm just going through the different areas and applying the authority checks and then everything should be good to go.

Hopefully I will have something for you guys next week!

Thanks!
Brad


SWEET!!!! :toast:

[vogelap]

Another (simple) request or two...

* Fix the date format to MM/DD/YYYY instead of YYYY/MM/DD.
* Add the space between the DATE OF RECORDING and DURATION, so it would be:
"01/18/2005, 32 minutes"
instead of
"2005/1/18,32 minutes"
* Add the file SIZE information to the WebUI: Library->ShowName->Options screen (instead of WebUI: Library->ShowName->Options->Edit).

That's it for now! Looking forward to the next version.

[bradpvr]

Another (simple) request or two...

* Fix the date format to MM/DD/YYYY instead of YYYY/MM/DD.
* Add the space between the DATE OF RECORDING and DURATION, so it would be:
"01/18/2005, 32 minutes"
instead of
"2005/1/18,32 minutes"
* Add the file SIZE information to the WebUI: Library->ShowName->Options screen (instead of WebUI: Library->ShowName->Options->Edit).

That's it for now! Looking forward to the next version.

Hey,

I've already fixed the date format, and added the space. I've also changed the way duration is displayed.

For example, it'll display 1 hour and 32 minutes or 30 minutes depending on the length.

I can add the size to that area too.

Thanks!
Brad

[vogelap]

Awesome! Looking forward to it.

[bpsmicro]

I'll just point out that only the US still uses MM/DD/YYYY date formats. Most of the rest of the world has switched to YYYY/MM/DD (except some operations here in Canada that still use DD/MM/YYYY to *majorly* screw us up sometimes).

But I'm pretty sure what you *really* want to do is read the LOCALE settings from the system in use, and use whatever format the individual user wants. :winkwink:

[vogelap]

Ah yes... That's what I mean... Read the LOCALE settings! :)

[bradpvr]

I'll just point out that only the US still uses MM/DD/YYYY date formats. Most of the rest of the world has switched to YYYY/MM/DD (except some operations here in Canada that still use DD/MM/YYYY to *majorly* screw us up sometimes).

But I'm pretty sure what you *really* want to do is read the LOCALE settings from the system in use, and use whatever format the individual user wants. :winkwink:

Hey,

Yeah, that's what I thought. I knew the mm/dd/yyyy thing looked kind of funny.

I'll see what I can do to help out these americanos and check if I can use the locale settings.

Thanks!
Brad

[mjb9800]

How about putting a link inside of the BTV Viewscape to be able to go straight to the Webadmin, without having to right click the icon in the tray.

[nanook105]

How about putting a link inside of the BTV Viewscape to be able to go straight to the Webadmin, without having to right click the icon in the tray.
I'll let Brad confirm, but this effort is limited to what can be done with Web Admin after it has already been started. Not sure if that could be accomplished with a BTV Plugin.

[bradpvr]

I'll let Brad confirm, but this effort is limited to what can be done with Web Admin after it has already been started. Not sure if that could be accomplished with a BTV Plugin.


That's correct. Modifying the viewscape is out of the scope of my changes. I'm not even sure this is possible?

Are there such things as BTV Plugins yet? I thought it only existed for BeyondMedia.

[nanook105]

That's correct. Modifying the viewscape is out of the scope of my changes. I'm not even sure this is possible?

Are there such things as BTV Plugins yet? I thought it only existed for BeyondMedia.
I think your right. It looks like there are just add ons and skins for BTV

[ccarlin]

Since Link shares the admin user password for its connection, are the changes you are making going to effect the way you connect to link?

[bradpvr]

Since Link shares the admin user password for its connection, are the changes you are making going to effect the way you connect to link?

No. Link will still connect with the "administrator" account. Link won't know about the user accounts we are creating here.

Good question!

Brad

[bradpvr]

Hey!

Well guys, it's finally done. I've added the ability to have user specific access within the Web Admin.

Right now it's pretty simple. There are 2 types of users. Write and Read. Write being able to do everything and Read has a limited ability.

Read can still schedule recordings, but can not cancel/delete them. That's the main difference.

The administrator account is the same as the Write account. The administrator account is what is used to access with BTV Link.

To create new users there are a couple of things you need to do:

1. Settings -> Advanced Settings -> Security Settings -> Enable security
2. Add users. This for some reason is a little wierd. If you already had security enabled in step #1, you have to select disable (don't click save) then select enable. Once you've done this, you will notice a new link to add a new user and password.

I'm pretty lazy so I didn't add in any facilities to edit/delete user accounts. If you want to do that, in the Application Data directory of BTV there's a WebAdminUsers.xml file that you can change. The passwords etc are all in plain text. (There aren't any NASA secrets we are protecting here).


There are bugs I'm sure, I've given it light testing.

Please make a backup of your wwwroot directory because if something goes wrong, you won't be able to access the Web Admin.

Please try it out and let me know. You will need to stop/start the BTV Webserver for the changes to take affect.

Let me know how it goes!!

Thanks,
Brad

[bpsmicro]

So far, so good.

I'm curious. In the Library, I see you've fixed the URLs to point to the file by http. But it specifies port 8135. It seems to actually work, but I can't find where that port number came from. Mind you, I've messed with this so much I mayhave changed some "hidden" setting somewhere. :-)

[bradpvr]

So far, so good.

I'm curious. In the Library, I see you've fixed the URLs to point to the file by http. But it specifies port 8135. It seems to actually work, but I can't find where that port number came from. Mind you, I've messed with this so much I mayhave changed some "hidden" setting somewhere. :-)

Me neither, I just call a function of BTV and it builds the URL for me, so I can't say exactly where it comes from.

But if it ain't broken, don't fix it! :)

Glad it's working for ya

Thanks,
Brad

[debennett2]

Thanks!!! Love it!

Future feature request: ability to make a user that can only view everything. Basically can't setup any recordings but can look at everything and stream video. Thanks!

I apprecaite all your hard work and time on this. :applause:

[bradpvr]

Thanks!!! Love it!

Future feature request: ability to make a user that can only view everything. Basically can't setup any recordings but can look at everything and stream video. Thanks!

I apprecaite all your hard work and time on this. :applause:

Glad you like it.

That request should be easy enough, I'll put it on the list.

Thanks!
Brad

[nanook105]

Brad,


Thans for the update. I noticed in the last couple of releases, that the show title in the library pages is now a link, but when I click on it, nothing happens. What is it supposed to do ?

[bradpvr]

Brad,


Thans for the update. I noticed in the last couple of releases, that the show title in the library pages is now a link, but when I click on it, nothing happens. What is it supposed to do ?

Hey,

Depending on the filetype it'll either stream the wmv or download the mpg. At least that's the plan.

I personally never used it, but some other people said it was useful so I put it in.

What's it doing for you?

Brad

[nanook105]

On the local PC, it didn't do anything. I just tried it on a remote (but still on my local network) PC, and it started the open/save dialog.

[bpsmicro]

Depending on the filetype it'll either stream the wmv or download the mpg. At least that's the plan.
I use the VideoLAN client on one of my LAN machines. While I haven't yet set up the associations (though I'm sure there's a way), I can fire up VideoLAN, select File|Open Network Stream, choose "HTTP/FTP/MMS" and paste in the URL directly from the Library page (I only use MPGs). VideoLAN will start playing the MPG *without* having to copy it across the LAN to the local machine first. Works like a charm.

I just need to find a way to persuade IE and/or Firefox to do this automagically when I click on the link in the browser, but so far my attempts have failed.

Brad.

[debennett2]

VideoLAN will start playing the MPG *without* having to copy it across the LAN to the local machine first.

You can do that with simple shares in windows. Why not just map a drive?
The whole idea with VideoLAN is being able to lower bitrates and whatnot for streaming. That's what I'd like to see. Some way to select a quality level within the web admin and have VideoLAN do the work in the background.

[nanook105]

I can't log in with any of the user accounts that I created. I added read and write accounts, but can't get past the password entry screen. Admin still works.

[bradpvr]

I can't log in with any of the user accounts that I created. I added read and write accounts, but can't get past the password entry screen. Admin still works.

Hey,

Can you check the WebAdminUsers.xml file in the application data directory and ensure it has a login/password/authority section and it's what you are expecting?

I think the passwords are case sensitive as well.

Let me know.

Thanks!
Brad

[nanook105]

I'll check that file when I get home this evening. I made sure that all of the passwords were lower case to avoid the case sensitive issue during testing.

[bpsmicro]

I have a question about Recording Manager in the latest build. I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

If I fire up Recording Manager, I see my list "ONCE" recordings that I have set up, plus of course all my weekly/firstrun/always recordings. What's missing is any sort of date/time/channel info on the recording. At the moment, for example, I have four separate entries called "Auto Racing", to correspond to the four upcoming events I want to record. But I can't tell which is which because the shown details are all the same. Is this something that's planned?

Also, the recording manager on Viewscape has this concept of prioritizing recordings to make sure important ones don't get superceded by new (lower-priority) requests or vice-versa. I don't recall whether this capability was *ever* in WebAdmin, even the original one. Perhaps it's already been discussed and I missed it. Is this possible to do?

Brad.

[nanook105]

Hey,

Can you check the WebAdminUsers.xml file in the application data directory and ensure it has a login/password/authority section and it's what you are expecting?

I think the passwords are case sensitive as well.

Let me know.

Thanks!
Brad
It looks like there is an extra <User> in the file (I replaced the actual passwords):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<Users>
<User>
<login>View</login>
<password>view</password>
<authority>Read</authority>
</User>
<User>
<User>
<login>Write</login>
<password>write</password>
<authority>Write</authority>
</User>
<User>
<login>Brett</login>
<password>brett</password>
<authority>Read</authority>
</User>
</User>
</Users>

[bradpvr]

yeah that would be a problem then. Remove the extra user node and try that.

If that works, can you tell me what your process was for adding users? It shouldn't have added the extra user nodes.

Thanks!
Brad

[nanook105]

yeah that would be a problem then. Remove the extra user node and try that.

If that works, can you tell me what your process was for adding users? It shouldn't have added the extra user nodes.

Thanks!
Brad
Taking out the extra user worked. I added the read and write users first using the method that you documented (turn security on, add user, turn off, turn back on, add second user). It was late and I tried to log in on the server, but thought I was just typing the password in wrong. I added the Brett User this morning using the same method.

[walts81]

Is there any way we could get a user type that can only view the "Library". I have users that I would like to be able to watch content, but not be able to go ANYWHERE else in the web admin.

Thanks,
Josh

[bradpvr]

Is there any way we could get a user type that can only view the "Library". I have users that I would like to be able to watch content, but not be able to go ANYWHERE else in the web admin.

Thanks,
Josh

Hey,

Well in theory the person can go anywhere, but can't do anything. You want to just show the library page and that's all sorta thing?

Let me know,
Brad

[walts81]

Hey,

Well in theory the person can go anywhere, but can't do anything. You want to just show the library page and that's all sorta thing?

Let me know,
Brad

Yep, exactly. I realize they can't really do anything, but just for simplicity sake... if all they're logging in for is to watch videos, then no need for other options.

Thanks,
Josh

[vogelap]

Found a little bug in the new WebUI... If you check any number of ShowSqueeze logs in ShowSqueeze and click "Delete Selected" to delete the log entries, the screen refreshes too quickly -- the shows still show up.

Clicking WebUI: ShowSqueeze a second time refreshes the screen and the log entries are gone, as expected.*bump*

I do not know if this is in the latest build of the new WebUI (the one that adds security).

[vogelap]

Just thought of something else. Super-easy to implement, I think...

It would be nice if you could put a VERSION number of your replacement WebUI somewhere (WebUI: About, perhaps?) so users can tell what version they're running.

So it might say:

Version: 1.0.0 (Build 1828)
Brad's Super WebUI build 20050123 (this could be a link to the spot with the latest version -- if you need server space, lemme know (www.drewvogel.com (http://www.drewvogel.com)))

[bradpvr]

Just thought of something else. Super-easy to implement, I think...

It would be nice if you could put a VERSION number of your replacement WebUI somewhere (WebUI: About, perhaps?) so users can tell what version they're running.

So it might say:

Version: 1.0.0 (Build 1828)
Brad's Super WebUI build 20050123 (this could be a link to the spot with the latest version -- if you need server space, lemme know (www.drewvogel.com (http://www.drewvogel.com)))

Hey,

Yeah that's a good idea. I will put the version number in there and host up the latest version.

Nothing's really been happening lately as I've been pretty busy. I'm kinda suprised there wasn't more bugs with the user stuff ha ha.

Brad

[nanook105]

I've validated almost all of the functions with a view user (still have 4-5 more to test), and in all cases, I wasn't able to do updates. There are a couple of areas where it seems like I am going to be able to do something, but it is prevented at the end. I'll organize the findings and pass them along. I haven't run through a set of updater tests, but I am sorta testing that by using it.

[wihtpc]

Great changes- thanks

Only issue I notice is the text commands for delate all selected shows and others... on library screen are jumbled together in the upper right of my webpage? Anyone else having this problem?

[vogelap]

wihtpc... Yes, they're that way for me as well. I'm told that they're working on making lives easier right now; later on, they'll work on making lives prettier.

Hang in there.

[bradpvr]

wihtpc... Yes, they're that way for me as well. I'm told that they're working on making lives easier right now; later on, they'll work on making lives prettier.

Hang in there.

That's right on. One of the last things I will do is clean the look and feel up.

[noodleNT]

Can you add "Select All" back to the Library page? I just had to do a reinstall and Now I have to go through 3 folders worth of files and mark them not to keep. So fn annoying.

[queonda]

Bradpvr.

Can you please update your 1st page/msg on this thread to help me and other newbies to find the latest file and changes to your hard work.

Thanks.

[dfisk]

I've been playing with the updated web admin, and love the fact that I can do most things much quicker, however, I'm having one problem. If I edit one show, everything seems fine. But, when I try to edit a second show, it pulls up the information for the first again.

Dave

[TinMan!]

Bradpvr.

Can you please update your 1st page/msg on this thread to help me and other newbies to find the latest file and changes to your hard work.

Thanks.
That would indeed be helpful. It's hard to find the latest stable version by scanning through all 11 pages of this thread. Keeping the first post updated would help a lot.

-Mike

[bradpvr]

Bradpvr.

Can you please update your 1st page/msg on this thread to help me and other newbies to find the latest file and changes to your hard work.

Thanks.

Good idea, I'll make sure to do that with the next update!

Thanks,
Brad

[nanook105]

Would it make sense to move this to BTV Downloads ?

[bradpvr]

Would it make sense to move this to BTV Downloads ?

What is BTV Downloads?

[nanook105]

What is BTV Downloads?
It is the forum where all of the BTV add ons are kept:

http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=41

This seems to be more of an upgrade than an add on, but it would stick out more than it does in this forum.

[vogelap]

Apparently, there is a file or something in this that makes 3.5.2 not work with BTV Link. I installed 3.5.2 release, copied this archive's contents over wwwroot and launched. Now the WebUI: About screen tells me that it's build 1849 and BTV LINK 3.5.2 doesn't connect.

I imagine this project need to be built under the current version.

[bradpvr]

Apparently, there is a file or something in this that makes 3.5.2 not work with BTV Link. I installed 3.5.2 release, copied this archive's contents over wwwroot and launched. Now the WebUI: About screen tells me that it's build 1849 and BTV LINK 3.5.2 doesn't connect.

I imagine this project need to be built under the current version.

Hmm, that's interesting. I'll have to get 3.5.2 installed to see what I can figure out.

I won't be able to do it next week as I'm out of town in Atlanta.

However, I can't see what changes in the web admin would affect having BTV LInk not work. Very interesting.

[vogelap]

I installed 3.5.2 release and launched BTV. Went to WebUI: About and checked the version, which indicates build 2006.

Exit BTV. Make a copy of the 'wwwroot' directory. Rename the original 'wwwroot' directory to 'wwwrootOLD'. Install the WebUI Enhancer to the copied 'wwwroot'. Launch BTV. Go to WebUI: About and check the version, which is 1849.

There doesn't seem to be any functional differences. Only the build number. I wonder if I re-installed the 3.5.1 BTV LINK if that would still work...

[nanook105]

I installed 3.5.2 release and launched BTV. Went to WebUI: About and checked the version, which indicates build 2006.

Exit BTV. Make a copy of the 'wwwroot' directory. Rename the original 'wwwroot' directory to 'wwwrootOLD'. Install the WebUI Enhancer to the copied 'wwwroot'. Launch BTV. Go to WebUI: About and check the version, which is 1849.

There doesn't seem to be any functional differences. Only the build number. I wonder if I re-installed the 3.5.1 BTV LINK if that would still work...
They have stated that BTV and BTV link have to be the same version for it to even connect, so that probably won't work. I haven't had a chance to reapply the webadmin changes since 3.5.2 I'll do that now to see if I have the same issues.

[IGx89]

Could it be something as simple as a version check?

[nanook105]

About in Web Admin does show the wrong version. However, BTV Link works just fine for me.

[bradpvr]

About in Web Admin does show the wrong version. However, BTV Link works just fine for me.

Hey,

I've noticed this too actually. The version has always showed the wrong version for me. Unfortunatly I don't know when it started showing incorrectly, so I don't know what I would have changed to make this happen.

Very wierd as I haven't touched that page.

Brad

[noodleNT]

I can't get the library to load anymore after upgrading to 3.5.2, I keep getting a runtime error.

Anyone else have this problem?

[nanook105]

For me, it works for by Folder, but I also get a runtime error for by series and all shows

[noodleNT]

Could you post your webadmin to the download section on the forum? I am finding it hard to locate the latest version through this long thread.

[merrypig]

For me, it works for by Folder, but I also get a runtime error for by series and all shows

I get this for the vanilla web admin. By series / by Folder gives me a server state "/" error... (sigh)

I also get the error trying to create a new recording from the web page.

I have to admit, the last 2 releases have been rather flaky like this. But I can't complain too much having spent little time helping debug any of it / reporting the faults.

[bradpvr]

I get this for the vanilla web admin. By series / by Folder gives me a server state "/" error... (sigh)

I also get the error trying to create a new recording from the web page.

I have to admit, the last 2 releases have been rather flaky like this. But I can't complain too much having spent little time helping debug any of it / reporting the faults.

If you get this for vanilla code, then chances are you'll get it for mine.

Man it's hot in Atlanta.

[nanook105]

Man it's hot in Atlanta.Be happy - its not very hot in Chi town

[noodleNT]

I have this version missmatch too now. I think it happend when I did an restore of an old backup of the webadmin. Of course I don't have a more recent backup and the stupid install wont let me install it again because I have the "latest" version. :|

This is getting fustrating.:(

[noodleNT]

fixed it btw... I replaced my WWWRoot with an old backup. Had to trick the installer that it hasn't installed the software yet with a regkey hack but all is good now.

BTW... The header images are missing in your latest version.

[noodleNT]

Can the multi account only handle one account?

[bradpvr]

Can the multi account only handle one account?

Should obviously handle multiple accounts, but if you're asking the question, I'm guessing it's not? he he

What's up?

Thanks,
Brad

[noodleNT]

I found the problem... the XML file got jacked up. It never closed the user group till the end of the file.

It looked something like this:

<users>
<user>
<login>name1</login>
<pass>pass</pass>
<user>
<login>name2</login>
<pass>pass</pass>
<user>
<login>name3</login>
<pass>pass</pass>
<user>
<login>name4</login>
<pass>pass</pass>
</user>
</user>
</user>
</user>
</users>

[vogelap]

Apparently, there is a file or something in this that makes 3.5.2 not work with BTV Link. I installed 3.5.2 release, copied this archive's contents over wwwroot and launched. Now the WebUI: About screen tells me that it's build 1849 and BTV LINK 3.5.2 doesn't connect.

I imagine this project need to be built under the current version.Has there been any progress on this issue?

[bnflaherty]

Drew...

I just installed the webadmin on my 3.5.2 testbox -- and can connect fine via Link.....

[vogelap]

Hrm. That's weird... There are at least a couple/few of us that cannot connect to BTV 3.5.2 via LINK 3.5.2 when the replacement WebUI is installed on the BTV machine.

What do you suggest we try?

[bradpvr]

Hrm. That's weird... There are at least a couple/few of us that cannot connect to BTV 3.5.2 via LINK 3.5.2 when the replacement WebUI is installed on the BTV machine.

What do you suggest we try?

Hey,

I'm really at a lost for this one. I don't know why the WebUI would affect BTV Link.

It's probably far fetched, but maybe submit a support request and they might be able to let us know what the connection between the two is.

Hopefully they don't say this isn't supported because it's been modified.

Thanks,
Brad

[walts81]

Well, I know BTV Link uses the admin password (if set) from the webUI. I wonder if changing the security section of the webUI would affect Link in some way.

[nanook105]

It had no impact on me. I am still able to use the link, and I don't have to use a password. Does seem a little strange.

[vogelap]

I do use the security features of the WebUI... That might have something to do with it.

[nanook105]

Just to clairify what I said. Before installing the BradPVR webadmin. I did not use the security that was still in the delivered Web Admin. After Installing Brad's WebAdmin, I did use it. Not sure if that actually clairified anything.....

[bpsmicro]

Apologies if I've missed something somewhere, but this thread has been really quiet lately. What's the status of the WebAdmin project? I'm toying with the idea of upgrading from 3.5.1 to 3.5.2 (or I may just wait for the next build after).
Is the new WebAdmin working with 3.5.2? Is it going to anytime soon?

Just trying to get (or keep) up to date. :-)

Brad.

[bradpvr]

Hey,

It's been kind of a mixed bag between 3.5.1 and 3.5.2.

Personally I haven't installed 3.5.2 yet because I have no need.

I think it's one of those try it and close your eyes kinda thing.

I really don't see how upgrading to 3.5.2 would affect the web admin, and haven't heard anything from Snapstream on this either.

Thanks!
Brad

[bpsmicro]

Okay. Right now everything's been working fine for me with 3.5.1, so I'm disinclined to mess with it. So far I've been unaffected by the bugs plaguing some people, and there haven't been any significant enhancements of note lately.

There are a few things I'd like to see in your WebAdmin implementation, but my read is that you've already noted all of them. I can be patient. :-)

(the other) Brad.

[vogelap]

Well, upgrading to 3.5.2, installing the replacement Web Admin, and trying to run the 3.5.2 version of LINK doesn't work for me... I reported that a while ago and there was some discussion, but to my knowledge, no resolution.

[vogelap]

Is there any development going on with this WebUI Replacement? Just curious...

[bradpvr]

Is there any development going on with this WebUI Replacement? Just curious...

Nothing as of late. Unfortunatly time is at a premium, especially with the summer months approaching.

[TinMan!]

I've never had the opportunity to try it. I waded through several few pages of posts to try and find the post with the latest version, but couldn't quite make out which one it was. I thought I read that the first message in the thread was going to be updated to contain the latest version, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

[nanook105]

I believe that post 128 is the latest and greatest.

[noodleNT]

i can never get the download links to work. is this a known issue?

[gidget]

hey i am kinda new at theis i found the last upload and would like to try it cause i have been reading and like the changes to web admin but i am not sure how to add them to it, do i just download or do i need a program to use them and out them in and if so how and what, sorry i am a newb

[planker]

Where is the WebAdminUsers.xml file supose to be? I am having problems loging in after upgrading to 3.5.3 and redoing the web admin update and I do not have a WebAdminUsers.xml any where on my computer

[Brett]

I am not sure why I didn't this before, but I finally got around and moved this to the SSDN section with the appropriate title.

(This post is intended to bump it to the top)

-Brett

[bmeller]

Thanks for doing all this work on the Webadmin! It sounds like this update should make it worlds better:applause:

I just have one question - I first found this thread tonight, after Brett moved it over to the downloads page (thanks for that too!), and I tried reading through it to find the changes you've made and where the files to download are, but the thread has become huge. I appologize if it's been asked already and I just didn't get there yet, but would you be able to post a changelog for your updates and a new download link? Thanks a lot!

[suprfli]

webadmin: great stuff! to make things easier on everyone can you edit your first post and and continue to update the latest download from there? that way people won't have to sift through pages of posts to find what they hope to be the latest and greatest. if you continue to update and edit your first post we can grab the latest file from there. thanks!!

[DanielS]

webadmin: great stuff! to make things easier on everyone can you edit your first post and and continue to update the latest download from there? that way people won't have to sift through pages of posts to find what they hope to be the latest and greatest. if you continue to update and edit your first post we can grab the latest file from there. thanks!!
Yes, PLEASE. THIS IS SO NEEDED.

[walts81]

Found a major flaw. If you create a user with read-only access. The User can go into settings-->advanced settings-->security and disable the security and SAVE the settings!

(maybe we could just keep read-only users out of settings alltogether?)

- Josh

[bradpvr]

Found a major flaw. If you create a user with read-only access. The User can go into settings-->advanced settings-->security and disable the security and SAVE the settings!

(maybe we could just keep read-only users out of settings alltogether?)

- Josh

Hmm, I thought I did.

Will review.

[noodleNT]

FYI, the webadmin needs to be updated for the new betas.

[vogelap]

Is anything happening with this excellent WebUI replacement? There are a few bugs still hanging around, and the latest version was more than 4 months ago...

[bradpvr]

Is anything happening with this excellent WebUI replacement? There are a few bugs still hanging around, and the latest version was more than 4 months ago...

Hey,

I plan on it, but the wind is out of my sails right now.

Eventually I'll get back to it, but right now it's not the #1 thing on my priority list.

If anyone wants the code, just let me know!

Thanks,
Brad

[noodleNT]

I wouldn't mind taking a look at the code. I am learning this new ASP.NET stuff right now along with web APIs. This would be a good project to get me up to speed. FYI though to everyone else... don't expect me to spit out updates left and right. My "Sail" is much smaller and stuck behind bradpvr's "wash". ;)

[dequire]

I wouldn't mind taking a look at the code. I am learning this new ASP.NET stuff right now along with web APIs. This would be a good project to get me up to speed. FYI though to everyone else... don't expect me to spit out updates left and right. My "Sail" is much smaller and stuck behind bradpvr's "wash". ;)

It all adds up, though!

[bradpvr]

i can never get the download links to work. is this a known issue?

WMV or MPEG?

[bradpvr]

Where is the WebAdminUsers.xml file supose to be? I am having problems loging in after upgrading to 3.5.3 and redoing the web admin update and I do not have a WebAdminUsers.xml any where on my computer

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\SnapStream\Beyond TV\

[noodleNT]

Both, I was using firefox and IE.

Also, what files would I need to change if I JUST want to add the Library Update? I find the Default SS one gets script errors often on my PPC, where your modded one worked flawlessly. I think the big difference was having it go to the Folder list view first.

[bradpvr]

Both, I was using firefox and IE.

Also, what files would I need to change if I JUST want to add the Library Update? I find the Default SS one gets script errors often on my PPC, where your modded one worked flawlessly. I think the bid difference was having it go to the Folder list view first.

Not sure if this would work, but trying grabing the Library.aspx file and copying it inplace of yours (backup first of course).

Let me know.

[Pollo]

After clicking the "Squeeze" button for a certain show I get a page with the following message:


Server Error in '/' Application.

Runtime Error

Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.

Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a <customErrors> tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off".

<!-- Web.Config Configuration File -->

<configuration>
<system.web>
<customErrors mode="Off"/>
</system.web>
</configuration>
Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's <customErrors> configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL.

<!-- Web.Config Configuration File -->

<configuration>
<system.web>
<customErrors mode="RemoteOnly" defaultRedirect="mycustompage.htm"/>
</system.web>
</configuration>

I know that the first post of this thread mentions "Made sure read only users can't change security settings" but I have no idea what this means. I know nothing of XML or any programming except for the C++ that I had to take as a pre-req for mechanical engineering. I just want to be able to quickly and easily showsqueeze files.

[noodleNT]

NOTE: New beta does not work with this mod well. It will need to be updated before it can be used.

[vogelap]

Will this mod be updated for the next release (3.7.x) of BTV?

[bradpvr]

Will this mod be updated for the next release (3.7.x) of BTV?

That's a good question. I think i'm still running 3.5.2, so I'd first have to upgrade that.

I'll let you know.

[noodleNT]

I believe the beta is now open and they are at RC2

[bradpvr]

I believe the beta is now open and they are at RC2

I'll wait till it comes out of RC (I don't have a test machine :)

[noodleNT]

Rogger! Might be soon. The RC's have been very stable.

[vogelap]

3.7.2 is out. I want to upgrade, but would rather wait to do so until this replacement WebUI works with it.

[bradpvr]

3.7.2 is out. I want to upgrade, but would rather wait to do so until this replacement WebUI works with it.

Is that a hint hint, nudge nudge type thing? ha!

[vogelap]

It is indeed! I just upgraded to 3.7.2 and I'm already missing the default LIBRARY view (I liked BY SERIES) and other features.

I'd love to see the WebUI replacement upgraded soon!

[vogelap]

I am really missing the ability to manage my ShowSqueeze log from a single page, the security features, the system information page, and (as mentioned) the ability to change the default view in the Library.

[donjuan]

I have an Idea for an add-on. On the set-up recording screen add a button under the show-squeeze oppcions that would allow you to use the copy function instead of compressing the mpgs. Of course with the copy you would be able to select the folder to which it should go.

[bradpvr]

I am really missing the ability to manage my ShowSqueeze log from a single page, the security features, the system information page, and (as mentioned) the ability to change the default view in the Library.

Uh oh, I just realized I didn't install VB on my new laptop, and I have since left the company in which I got it from.

I will see if I can get a copy.

Will let you know.

[bradpvr]

Uh oh, I just realized I didn't install VB on my new laptop, and I have since left the company in which I got it from.

I will see if I can get a copy.

Will let you know.

Got access to licensing.microsoft.com so I could get my copy back.

Only 21 hrs of downloading left!

[merrypig]

I'm sure that's a truely legit copy as well. Good job, since your post will be cached by google for eternity.

[bradpvr]

I'm sure that's a truely legit copy as well. Good job, since your post will be cached by google for eternity.

Actually it is legit. Microsoft's Volume licensing site (and my access to it) is legit because it was paid for. I just didn't have the actual DVD's anymore.

Thanks for watching my back though :)

[vogelap]

So, can I assume that because you're re-downloading and installing VB, that we might see a 3.7.x-compatible version of your WebUI replacment?

[bradpvr]

So, can I assume that because you're re-downloading and installing VB, that we might see a 3.7.x-compatible version of your WebUI replacment?

Yup, just don't know *exactly* when!

Hopefully soon.

[vogelap]

Thanks!

[noodleNT]

Can't wait!

[bradpvr]

Can't wait!

I'm getting kind of worried though, because of a couple of things:

1) There have been quite a few reports of jerky video with 3.5.7 (I don't want this on my PVR)

2) SS has made changes to the web admin, and now I have to figure out how to merge the 2. I don't even know exactly what changes they have made, and where they have made them.

So don't get too excited just yet ;)

[vogelap]

Playback on my machine has been fine with 3.7.2. I expect that your results will be the same.

There aren't that many changes to the WebUI. I don't imagine it will take very long to sort them out!

I reserve the right to get excited! ;)

Actually, if there was some way to cobble together the System Information pane, that would address my immediate need. Since I will be on vacation soon, I would like to be able to monitor the status of my PVR from the web. Having the System Info pane would enable me to see that information. (It would be really nice if SnapStream made that functionality part of the WebUI by default.)

[bradpvr]

Well, I got BTV 3.7.2 installed. Now we are getting closer!!

[vogelap]

I was out for a while (in Puerto Rico -- more on that later)... Anything exciting going on with the new WebUI?

[bradpvr]

I was out for a while (in Puerto Rico -- more on that later)... Anything exciting going on with the new WebUI?

Well I did get 3.7.2 installed, and other then a little stuttering it hasn't be bad at all.

So now I just have to find the time to do some updates to the code. The merging part of it is what's going to suck, as I don't know what they've changed and where they've changed it!

[gmcadams]

I am getting an error on Library.aspx

"The underlying connection was closed: The server committed an HTTP protocol violation."

without having ths source code, I'm not able to find out why.

Gabriel

[noodleNT]

Get any where yet? :bowdown:

[vogelap]

I miss my enhanced Web Admin!!!

Maybe, if you can't manage it any more, you'd consider releasing your source files? Not that I personally could do anything with them (I am no coder), but someone could use what you've created and build on it.

[bradpvr]

I miss my enhanced Web Admin!!!

Maybe, if you can't manage it any more, you'd consider releasing your source files? Not that I personally could do anything with them (I am no coder), but someone could use what you've created and build on it.

I agree. First I'd like to get it at least to the latest version, as this way I know what I've changed.

Time is a valuable resource!

[vogelap]

Anything?

[noodleNT]

If you can't get to it can we have the source code?

[Bootrix]

Oh my word! I just spent at least an hour+ reading all 17 pages, not knowing for one milisecond that I was reading about a NON working plugin! I thought this thing sounded so darn great, taylored for real-world usage, etc., excellent communication and support from the author, but now he needs some time for other things in life (completely understandable I might add!)

It <might> be VERY ueseful if there was some red bold text edited into the first or second post that this is no longer working for versions 3.5x-3.7x, so other dummies like myself won't waste so much time reading about something that isn't quite completed yet?! Whatcha all think? :) It definitely sounded like a keeper though! :)

[vogelap]

Putting red, bold text on the first message would be one approach.

I'd much rather see another approach -- to make it work with 3.5x-3.7x!

Any progress?

[travislafleur]

I am a software developer that would like to take over this project and continue the enhancements. If I can get a copy of the source code we can get this thing rolling again. I am currently downloading the SDK and I plan on enhancing the admin for some of my own needs. But, if I can't get the source code, I will just start a new project and try to get the it up to the same features.

[noodleNT]

I have my own SVN server running if you want to host the code somewhere for free!! Please let some people help you!

[vogelap]

I hope you'll take it over (or develop your own), travislafleur. The features in the replacement WebUI were really quite nice -- like batch deletion of ShowSqueeze logs, etc. -- and I hope someone with some coding talent can further enhance the WebUI.

I'd be happy to test any changes for you. I use the WebUI a lot.